Agreed. Been saying that for the last two years.

Sep 13, 2018
8:12:40pm

GOR All-American

You drop two balls? You're done at LEAST for the game. Idk how you even get to three drops.

Maybe it just isn't that simple with personnel groupings or something though.

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Criddle & Jensen dropped the hammer a bit on players the other day

GOR

9/13/18 9:26am

loss on the players? like virtually every loss ever?

Dissenter

9/13/18 9:28am

Right. Because no one had issues with the O scheme or coaching culture last year

GOR

9/13/18 1:55pm

And if the players aren’t focused or committed, who does that go back to? 🤔

AD4

9/13/18 9:30am

To an extent... But can't be watching these kids 24/7. They have to motivate

ReggaeCoug

9/13/18 9:36am

Definitely. One or two players will always do what they want to do, despite the

AD4

9/13/18 9:37am

All the HC can do is establish a culture of discipline and hard work.

dilbert

9/13/18 9:42am

And, KS hasn't created a culture of discipline and hard work. Hence the current

TrueBlue67

9/13/18 9:58am

He couldn’t even maintain it, let alone create it

ldssdl

9/13/18 8:37pm

I was very down on KS after the first two years, but think the jury is still out

dreamlvr

9/13/18 9:11pm

I think you have some great points, but we should be better than this.

bald man

9/14/18 5:56am

I haven't written him off yet, I think a first time BYU HC deserves 5 years.

ldssdl

9/14/18 8:09am

True to a point

gww687

9/13/18 10:25am

We get it, you don't like the coaching staff.

Benfica1

9/13/18 11:37am

BYU had the players and scheme to win.... but dropped passes/missed assignments.

Benfica1

9/13/18 11:40am

Player leadership ... one would hope

Unibro

9/13/18 1:29pm

How can Criddle make that kind of assessment without being a coach?

franklyvulgar

9/13/18 9:33am

Cause he's played and maybe he knows a little more than us?

ReggaeCoug

9/13/18 9:38am

I mean the comment about player’s commitment I get evaluating plays

franklyvulgar

9/13/18 9:45am

His brother is on the team

palangi

9/13/18 10:31am

I really like Jensen. He calls it like it is.

idacoug

9/13/18 9:44am

Is it Cam Jensen?

Tricky

9/13/18 1:24pm

Yes!

Cnation

9/13/18 1:37pm

In the 2nd Half, cal's defense was drooling and playing with a lot of emotion

bald man

9/13/18 9:46am

The idea that BYU's players can't get up for the first home game of the season,

TrueBlue67

9/13/18 10:27am

LOL Yeah this would happen if BYU's coaches for the last 15 years felt like

Iki_Balam

9/13/18 2:13pm

Sounds like scholarships need to start being pulled.

Coug

9/13/18 10:22am

The coaches set the culture, and the players follow that culture

CharlottesvilleCoug

9/13/18 10:27am

Yep

Coogar2

9/13/18 9:10pm

It's not that simple. The coaches this year are absolutely pushing the

FanofBYU

9/14/18 7:40am

BYU media has given zero respect to cal after the loss, which I don't get.

Josef K

9/13/18 11:33am

Ask yourself a couple of questions. Do you think any players on Nick Saban's

cougarfan87

9/13/18 11:59am

The difference is Alabama's backups are as good or better as most teams starters

SpanishFork12

9/13/18 12:15pm

That's a great example.

wilsdad

9/13/18 1:02pm

It's a horrible example. Saban has elite talent in backup positions. We don't.

GOR

9/13/18 1:57pm

A series to get disciplined would reap great benefits. But you have to be

cougarfan87

9/13/18 2:10pm

Agreed.

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:12pm

Considering how long most of our offensive series were last week...

bacon

9/13/18 2:46pm

Stop it.

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:10pm

so why couldn't he cut it in the NFL? Less talent, his 2's weren't better than

palangi

9/13/18 2:16pm

Saban did the same thing at LSU before Bama.

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:23pm

It's LSU! They won another title without him in 2007 too. LSU gets the top

palangi

9/13/18 2:48pm

Come on

GOR

9/13/18 2:20pm

I agree...

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:25pm

Agreed. Been saying that for the last two years.

GOR

9/13/18 8:12pm

That’s it. Most of them have their scholies and have no further aspirations.

dreamlvr

9/13/18 2:51pm

How did Saban do in the NFL again?

palangi

9/13/18 1:02pm

What does that have to do with the point 87 was making??

byu_coug

9/13/18 1:33pm

Apples to oranges. BYU is not Alabama, Alabama is not NFL even if HC is the same

palangi

9/13/18 1:47pm

Interesting... so because it is two individual schools...

byu_coug

9/14/18 6:38pm

Why stop at Alabama? Compare BYU to the NE Patriots.

Benfica1

9/13/18 1:13pm

Nice strawman... He was comparing attitudes and accountability...

byu_coug

9/13/18 1:31pm

"Strongman". Thanks.

Benfica1

9/13/18 2:16pm

Ask another: How many of our guys would see the field at Alabama?

cajuncoug

9/13/18 1:45pm

Doesn't matter. I already said it won't make us Alabama. But disciplined

cougarfan87

9/13/18 2:44pm

Probably, re: your last point

cajuncoug

9/13/18 5:27pm

Apples to oranges. BYU is not Alabama, Alabama is not NFL even if HC is the same

palangi

9/13/18 1:46pm

^^^meant for above

palangi

9/13/18 1:48pm

Good. But coaching is king in CFB.

Gerald-DeGroot

9/13/18 1:45pm

I think that may be more true than we knew.

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:17pm

Next year Grimes takes team to the mountain, throws the Y helmet in the fire...

Y4LYFE

9/13/18 7:34pm

Booooooooo? What you’d rather it be the coaches fault? Why are the

Pretorian

9/13/18 9:38pm

I meant boooo as in it's disappointing to hear that maybe the players

GOR

9/14/18 1:13am

Ahhhhhh, ok I’m picking up what you’re putting down now

Pretorian

9/14/18 12:42pm

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