So now we shift to personal attacks. Nice

Dec 5, 2018
8:28:49pm

reddead Walk-on

Utah was a placeholder; a number of other teams (including Louisville and BYU) would have done as well. But there needed to be at least 2 new teams, and Utah and Colorado fit the bill.

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Maybe the rumor that big 12 didn’t expand because lack of a solid second school

26769coug

12/5/18 7:40am

Look. He can't say only one team moved the needle to a reporter. See if you're

rcbyufan

12/5/18 7:42am

I get that—that’s why I said maybe. Not sure what warranted the snarky comment.

26769coug

12/5/18 8:31am

Fair enough. I agree with the maybe.

rcbyufan

12/5/18 8:42am

Because then the question is, which school?

Scott_Tenorman

12/5/18 9:46am

The post said "not" one school. meaning no school moved the needle

pappabear246

12/5/18 10:05am

That’s not true.

idacoug

12/5/18 7:50am

BYU has sure been proving them wrong. The Big 12 must be so embarrassed. Look what they missed out on.

DapperDan

12/5/18 7:52am

Half the current B12 schools wouldn't move the needle if they

Left Shark Coug

12/5/18 7:54am

So do you think the P12 now regrets inviting Utah & Colorado?

lbmango

12/5/18 8:35am

Probably. Especially considering the network has been a flop which was the reason they were willing

YIsForBrigham

12/5/18 8:37am

I think the P12 regrets a lot of things right now

MwangoleCoug9

12/5/18 8:38am

Nope. Utah and Colorado were brought for markets and easy wins

reddead

12/5/18 9:24am

Ehhh... are those markets really worth 20% less revenue per each team?

Iki_Balam

12/5/18 10:00am

It's not 20% less (that's lazy math); additionally, UT and CO added value

reddead

12/5/18 12:43pm

The CCG added value. That was the main driver, and the PAC did beg for a waiver

Left Shark Coug

12/5/18 12:56pm

RE: The CCG added value. That was the main driver, and the PAC did beg for a

displacedute

12/5/18 2:23pm

Incorrect on so many levels

reddead

12/5/18 2:36pm

RE: Incorrect on so many levels

Iki_Balam

12/5/18 3:16pm

Hang out with and act like a yewt troll, get labeled a yewt.

Left Shark Coug

12/5/18 4:52pm

So now we shift to personal attacks. Nice

reddead

12/5/18 8:28pm

Probably.

Left Shark Coug

12/5/18 10:02am

sadly, allowing a championship game with 10 teams hurt BYU quite a bit

pappabear246

12/5/18 10:13am

Moving the needle? As in championships? All those teams you listed provide a

puntersarepeople

12/5/18 2:58pm

I think getting 8 Big 12 schools to agree on anything is actually pretty hard.

Art Director

12/5/18 7:57am

Submit your applications! On second thought, just kidding.

Left Shark Coug

12/5/18 7:59am

"Move the needle" in his comments means "moved it enough to initiate action"

yakkamole

12/5/18 1:24pm

As BYU fans we think BYU moved the needle. I’m certain Houston fans feel the

Crowd Factor

12/5/18 8:09am

Houston and ucf were flashes in the pan— many think that quick football success

1984coug

12/5/18 8:23am

I think it’s possible that at lest three schools don’t want to expand west

Josef K

12/5/18 8:25am

There's always stability...until there isnt.

EEcougar

12/5/18 8:36am

Maybe Utah is becoming a "solid second school" with their stadium expansion

cougarnw

12/5/18 9:14am

You didn't see the pac10.2 championship game

BYURider

12/5/18 9:24am

But BYU wouldn't have been in that game

reddead

12/5/18 9:25am

If BYU was invited 8 years ago, they'd be there

BYURider

12/5/18 9:31am

Only if we had a better coach than we do now.

coolblue

12/5/18 11:51am

Really don't want to be a downer, but I don't think so

reddead

12/5/18 1:04pm

His point is that Utah’s attendance is poor

puntersarepeople

12/5/18 2:59pm

He's wrong.

displacedute

12/5/18 4:44pm

The 2012 game had fewer attendees.

displacedute

12/5/18 2:25pm

The 1-loss Big 12 champ just landed a spot in the CFP, ahead of 1-loss Ohio St.

boscatar

12/5/18 9:57am

What any one school lacked was enough money

Iki_Balam

12/5/18 10:03am

RE: Maybe the rumor that big 12 didn’t expand because lack of a solid

Sandstone Cougar

12/5/18 10:04am

Given that's true (it's not), then many of their current schools wouldn't move

BamaCoug

12/5/18 11:40am

That sounds like what a negotiator would say in ongoing/future negotiations

stealth

12/5/18 12:54pm

Need to add wrestling and get Women's Gymnastics in Big 12

HawkeyeCoug

12/5/18 2:31pm

Big 12 already has wrestling. OSU and ISU have excellent programs

TechTexan

12/9/18 5:09pm

BYU might have moved the needle, but not in a big way

Hill4Heisman

12/5/18 6:59pm

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