I'm not sure if this was TIC, or just emotional crazy talk.

Dec 16, 2018
10:23:41pm

Benfica1 Walk-on

Please list specifics of mistakes Holmoe has made?

Note: The only real mistake may be that he hired a completely inexperienced staff before the 2016 season. Much of that has been remedied before the 2018 season. Are things perfect now? No, but things are better.

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Holmoe needs to be held accountable. He is just like Larry Scott -teflonman.

Swishfromdeep3

12/16/18 10:15pm

who replaces him?

HarlemCoug

12/16/18 10:18pm

Swishfromdeep3 will

PessimisticCB

12/16/18 10:56pm

Peter Pilling. Dave Checketts. There are not limited options like coaching

krhr896041

12/16/18 11:02pm

That would be a HUGE upgrade.

Corn

12/16/18 11:05pm

That is the thing, there are so many possibilities for AD. We need someone with

krhr896041

12/16/18 11:09pm

n July 2018, Checketts will begin a three-year term of service as president of the LDS Church's England London Mission.

whitey1980

12/16/18 11:46pm

That would rule him out for the immediate future.

krhr896041

12/17/18 12:17am

I’d like to see them put some big money together to go after Steve Young.

Q-grr

12/17/18 1:42am

Money is not the driver for Young.

Cougstreak

12/17/18 6:14am

I also wonder if Steve Young would be great. Super smart, well connected &

BleedCougarBlue2

12/17/18 9:37am

Amen.

Gerald-DeGroot

12/16/18 10:20pm

The people above him(the BOT) are the real problem.

BengalCougar

12/16/18 10:23pm

There are several problems at play. BOT, AD, Richardson, Bateman & Samuelson etc

Bubb Rubb

12/17/18 12:48am

I'm not sure if this was TIC, or just emotional crazy talk.

Benfica1

12/16/18 10:23pm

Cmon if this were a business he would have been let go. Poor results-period.

Swishfromdeep3

12/16/18 10:45pm

I don’t think it is entirely on Tom for the reason we didn’t get into a P5

PessimisticCB

12/16/18 10:51pm

I was very concerned when he didn't know BYU's value from a market perspective

krhr896041

12/16/18 11:06pm

He also fired Bronco to hire the incompetent coaches. (when I say fired, he told

coolblue

12/17/18 7:20am

You hang your hat on a rumor?

Benfica1

12/17/18 7:51am

Solid family source.

coolblue

12/17/18 9:56am

I don't believe tainted 'family sources'. There are two sides to every story.

Benfica1

12/17/18 10:32am

I think the BOT is pretty woke and have much different priorities than sports fans may have.

Rhino84

12/16/18 10:33pm

They need to have a priority of excellence with all things that represent The

Rocketman

12/16/18 10:48pm

Bingo. This is why Holmoe still has a job.

Corn

12/16/18 11:04pm

Maybe one of the changes that President Nelson is making will be correcting a

krhr896041

12/16/18 11:13pm

I guess I'm the only person who is clueless about the use of the word, "woke," here.

Brisco

12/16/18 11:58pm

It’s a stupid millennialism: means socially aware, sometimes self-aware or situationally aware

2FarGone

12/17/18 8:17am

How many people want that thankless job you think? Of them, how many will be better?

ocmyhome

12/16/18 10:34pm

There are a lot of people who would want the job and could do a much better job.

krhr896041

12/16/18 11:17pm

Don't disagree about the "current" trajectory. Just think Holmoe has proven value and to flush that value

ocmyhome

12/16/18 11:41pm

What about the lack of understanding of BYU's value during the last Big 12 exp

krhr896041

12/16/18 11:45pm

Why is it all of Tom Holmoe’s fault we didn’t get into the Big 12?

PessimisticCB

12/16/18 11:48pm

He was married to independence when the Big12 came calling the first time around

krhr896041

12/16/18 11:58pm

My source said completely different. The Big 12 wanted BYU to make some

PessimisticCB

12/17/18 12:06am

Are you talking 2014 or 2011?

krhr896041

12/17/18 12:07am

2011

PessimisticCB

12/17/18 12:12am

That is not true in 2011. 2014 it is though. Your source is likely mixing years

krhr896041

12/17/18 12:15am

Also, my source wasn’t in the AD office but someone who works with the Twelve

PessimisticCB

12/17/18 12:16am

That is like hearing a rumor about an MCU character from Bob Iger's tailor.

krhr896041

12/17/18 12:26am

That’s fine. You don’t have to believe me. It makes no difference.

PessimisticCB

12/17/18 12:31am

No. I believe you. I'm just saying your source and his contacts are pretty far

krhr896041

12/17/18 12:35am

You are right. Most don’t however, there are some that actually do like BYU

PessimisticCB

12/17/18 12:37am

Yep, but I think people in the AD and admin are better sources on these kind of

krhr896041

12/17/18 12:41am

I literally have no idea what your references mean.

PessimisticCB

12/17/18 12:46am

That isn't surprising.

Bubb Rubb

12/17/18 12:56am

There is absolutely no scenario - in 2011, 2014 or in 2023 - in which the

NewMexiCoug

12/17/18 5:48am

So 4-9 last year and 6-6 this year with a team full of Frosh and Soph starters..

Denile

12/16/18 11:03pm

I think he deserves a raise: 16th best athletic program in the country.

RedSox

12/17/18 8:25am

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