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Mar 14, 2019
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Seasider
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I wouldn’t pin all of it coaching
A lot of those 3-4 star guys went on missions and have since gotten married. Those are huge factors for an athlete coming out of high school and sometimes the changes will have a negative effect on them as a player.
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I'm not buying the "lack of talent" argument
mjmill
3/14/19 12:01pm
The WCC is very much a coach's league. The style of play lends to having
mudpupper
3/14/19 12:14pm
"This is definitely to Rose's strong suite." ???
Mark320
3/14/19 12:47pm
Sorry, edited. Xs and Os are not his strong suite.
mudpupper
3/14/19 1:12pm
I wouldn’t pin all of it coaching
Seasider
3/14/19 12:22pm
If you go by HS rankings, loaded with 4-star talent, but if you go by the
BYURider
3/14/19 12:26pm
The problem is missions kill basketball ability. It usually takes two years to
tawillin
3/14/19 12:30pm
How is it then that Nick Emery was a fairly good right-off-his-mission as a
CMuehle
3/14/19 2:07pm
not sure how you can quantify that Yoeli "hasn't progressed at BYU"
icecougar
3/15/19 10:16am
Agree w/ Ice cougar
Prickly Heat
3/16/19 12:30am
Compare last year with this:
CMuehle
3/16/19 12:58pm
Definitely not true
jes2332
3/14/19 2:43pm
The eye test and actual production very much indicate a talent problem.
ag4cougs
3/14/19 12:57pm
Best high school team in byu basketball history!
youngbuck
3/14/19 12:58pm
Amen brother. It's not the players.
andrewg3
3/14/19 12:59pm
Man, how weird is it that people aren't playing up to their HS star ratings?
Parkcity_and
3/14/19 1:00pm
Without disagreeing with your main point, St Mary’s has a lot
gwalker
3/14/19 1:04pm
Definitely. SMC has a unique recruiting approach and is great at unearthing
mjmill
3/14/19 1:08pm
I think with foreign players, a "star" is assigned once they commit, but not
flyzag
3/14/19 2:38pm
For BYU to be competitive, it needs a high quality point guard. Since Collins-
Archaea
3/14/19 4:42pm
The more talented team by far on the court last Saturday was BYU and yet we
kimdaddy35
3/14/19 1:29pm
I am buying the lack of coaching argument, however.....
BDAWG
3/14/19 1:52pm
It's easy to see by WATCHING that the talent drop is obvious
RockyBalboa
3/14/19 2:44pm
talented athletes that are coached poorly also appear to suffer from lack of talent. coaching matters.
Bob Vance
3/14/19 3:34pm
Coaching obviously matters
RockyBalboa
3/14/19 8:53pm
as an outsider:
flyzag
3/14/19 3:53pm
I like this guy ☝️
MD Rebel Coug
3/14/19 4:28pm
mika leaving, bryant leaving and emery getting suspended were all pretty big
buckeyecougarguy
3/14/19 2:44pm
Pardon my French, but how the h*ck was Kolby Lee a 4-star?!
stev
3/14/19 3:06pm
I do have to laugh that Luke was a three star, and Kolby was a four star! That
BYU I Bleed Blue
3/14/19 3:07pm
I was about to say the same thing
Oldcougfan
3/14/19 3:47pm
That was baffling even at the time he got that ranking...I have family that
BYUfan92
3/14/19 9:20pm
I do buy the lack of talent argument.
Oldcougfan
3/14/19 3:52pm
Agreed that stars don’t always get it right, but...
MD Rebel Coug
3/14/19 4:33pm
Lack Of size in the front court killed BYU this year.
The Natural
3/14/19 4:47pm
And a lack of a point guard. No control of game flow when you don't have a PG
Archaea
3/14/19 4:49pm
Yep. Rose loves small ball. Zac ain’t a PF
Coogar2
3/14/19 4:58pm
I’m willing to arm wrestle TJ.
Coogar2
3/14/19 5:01pm
I agree 100%
WannabeAA
3/14/19 5:31pm
RE: I'm not buying the "lack of talent" argument
Gerald-DeGroot
3/14/19 6:27pm
The fact that Nixon was considered a 3-star recruit tells you all you
byuguns55
3/14/19 7:01pm
HS ratings are one thing. What do your eyes tell you? We are seriously lacking
UNHuskerCoug
3/14/19 7:06pm
Who had more talent when POPE with UVU beat Rose..IN the MC?
CarolinaCoug
3/14/19 11:15pm
That year? I would say it was pretty even. They had a good team.
UNHuskerCoug
3/15/19 12:37pm
The biggest problem is the culture of the team...
icecougar
3/14/19 7:23pm
Who had more talent when Pipe beat Eose UVU st the MC?
CarolinaCoug
3/14/19 10:19pm
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