not sure how you can quantify that Yoeli "hasn't progressed at BYU"

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Mar 15, 2019
10:16:46am

icecougar All-American

not sure how you can quantify that Yoeli "hasn't progressed at BYU"

he maybe hasn't progressed on the defensive end and seems to have gotten lazier when it comes to playing PNR defense but it's easy to see he's progressed on the offensive end (scoring is up, 3pt shooting is up, and his PER is up and the improvements this year were despite BYU playing a tougher SOS than in previous years.

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I'm not buying the "lack of talent" argument

mjmill

3/14/19 12:01pm

The WCC is very much a coach's league. The style of play lends to having

mudpupper

3/14/19 12:14pm

"This is definitely to Rose's strong suite." ???

Mark320

3/14/19 12:47pm

Sorry, edited. Xs and Os are not his strong suite.

mudpupper

3/14/19 1:12pm

I wouldn’t pin all of it coaching

Seasider

3/14/19 12:22pm

If you go by HS rankings, loaded with 4-star talent, but if you go by the

BYURider

3/14/19 12:26pm

The problem is missions kill basketball ability. It usually takes two years to

tawillin

3/14/19 12:30pm

How is it then that Nick Emery was a fairly good right-off-his-mission as a

CMuehle

3/14/19 2:07pm

not sure how you can quantify that Yoeli "hasn't progressed at BYU"

icecougar

3/15/19 10:16am

Agree w/ Ice cougar

Prickly Heat

3/16/19 12:30am

Compare last year with this:

CMuehle

3/16/19 12:58pm

Definitely not true

jes2332

3/14/19 2:43pm

The eye test and actual production very much indicate a talent problem.

ag4cougs

3/14/19 12:57pm

Best high school team in byu basketball history!

youngbuck

3/14/19 12:58pm

Amen brother. It's not the players.

andrewg3

3/14/19 12:59pm

Man, how weird is it that people aren't playing up to their HS star ratings?

Parkcity_and

3/14/19 1:00pm

Without disagreeing with your main point, St Mary’s has a lot

gwalker

3/14/19 1:04pm

Definitely. SMC has a unique recruiting approach and is great at unearthing

mjmill

3/14/19 1:08pm

I think with foreign players, a "star" is assigned once they commit, but not

flyzag

3/14/19 2:38pm

For BYU to be competitive, it needs a high quality point guard. Since Collins-

Archaea

3/14/19 4:42pm

The more talented team by far on the court last Saturday was BYU and yet we

kimdaddy35

3/14/19 1:29pm

I am buying the lack of coaching argument, however.....

BDAWG

3/14/19 1:52pm

It's easy to see by WATCHING that the talent drop is obvious

RockyBalboa

3/14/19 2:44pm

talented athletes that are coached poorly also appear to suffer from lack of talent. coaching matters.

Bob Vance

3/14/19 3:34pm

Coaching obviously matters

RockyBalboa

3/14/19 8:53pm

as an outsider:

flyzag

3/14/19 3:53pm

I like this guy ☝️

MD Rebel Coug

3/14/19 4:28pm

mika leaving, bryant leaving and emery getting suspended were all pretty big

buckeyecougarguy

3/14/19 2:44pm

Pardon my French, but how the h*ck was Kolby Lee a 4-star?!

stev

3/14/19 3:06pm

I do have to laugh that Luke was a three star, and Kolby was a four star! That

BYU I Bleed Blue

3/14/19 3:07pm

I was about to say the same thing

Oldcougfan

3/14/19 3:47pm

That was baffling even at the time he got that ranking...I have family that

BYUfan92

3/14/19 9:20pm

I do buy the lack of talent argument.

Oldcougfan

3/14/19 3:52pm

Agreed that stars don’t always get it right, but...

MD Rebel Coug

3/14/19 4:33pm

Lack Of size in the front court killed BYU this year.

The Natural

3/14/19 4:47pm

And a lack of a point guard. No control of game flow when you don't have a PG

Archaea

3/14/19 4:49pm

Yep. Rose loves small ball. Zac ain’t a PF

Coogar2

3/14/19 4:58pm

I’m willing to arm wrestle TJ.

Coogar2

3/14/19 5:01pm

I agree 100%

WannabeAA

3/14/19 5:31pm

RE: I'm not buying the "lack of talent" argument

3/14/19 6:27pm

The fact that Nixon was considered a 3-star recruit tells you all you

byuguns55

3/14/19 7:01pm

HS ratings are one thing. What do your eyes tell you? We are seriously lacking

UNHuskerCoug

3/14/19 7:06pm

Who had more talent when POPE with UVU beat Rose..IN the MC?

3/14/19 11:15pm

That year? I would say it was pretty even. They had a good team.

UNHuskerCoug

3/15/19 12:37pm

The biggest problem is the culture of the team...

icecougar

3/14/19 7:23pm

Who had more talent when Pipe beat Eose UVU st the MC?

3/14/19 10:19pm

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