BYU competed with USU in 2017 and got thumped in 2018

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Apr 15, 2019
2:12:01pm

BYU Fan All-American

BYU competed with USU in 2017 and got thumped in 2018

Handpicking two games as signs of great improvement doesn't really work (and I wouldn't really call the Hawaii in 2017 a close game).

There were signs of improvement last year but Zach Wilson's best wins are Hawaii and Western Michigan (and I believe BYU has nine opponents this year better than either of those teams).

The BYU offense averaged 16 ppg against N Illinois, Boise State, and Utah. For comparison, the oft criticized Tanner Mangum averaged 19 ppg against Arizona, Cal, Wisconsin, Washington, and Utah State.

I'm hoping that things are improving but I wouldn't dare book tickets to the Hawaii Bowl yet.

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BYU has one bad season in 14 years, and now everyone acts like we're UTEP. It's

andrewg3

4/15/19 1:46pm

Shellackings of UMass and Hawaii?

2FarGone

4/15/19 1:48pm

What did you find funny about that?

andrewg3

4/15/19 1:49pm

That it is your evidentiary support for being back

2FarGone

4/15/19 1:54pm

If almost losing to both those teams one year, then throttling them the next

andrewg3

4/15/19 1:58pm

My floor for performance from BYU football is higher than yours

2FarGone

4/15/19 2:02pm

My floor is 8 wins, which will happen this season. What's yours?

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:08pm

Same, but I expect to beat Boise and Utah routinely on top of that

2FarGone

4/15/19 2:10pm

The tides will turn. Boise had their version of Max Hall at QB the last 4 years.

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:18pm

I'm with you. The pendulum is going to come back our way. Hopefully starting now

Trent

4/15/19 5:53pm

BYU competed with USU in 2017 and got thumped in 2018

BYU Fan

4/15/19 2:12pm

Competed with USU in 2017?!! I was at that game...we got our As handed to us,

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:14pm

I felt BYU had a chance in the 4th quarter in 2017

BYU Fan

4/15/19 2:20pm

Nah man. Go back and rewatch it. My dad and I left in the 3rd.

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:28pm

No thank you - I'll take your word for it.

BYU Fan

4/15/19 2:34pm

Good choice.

andrewg3

4/15/19 3:50pm

So, do all of you thumbs-downers really think beating UMass and Hawaii means we're good?

2FarGone

4/15/19 6:35pm

More momentum out of one game

stansburycoug

4/15/19 7:31pm

The trend is not good. But your optimism is admirable. That said, I believe in

SandYFan

4/15/19 1:50pm

Those coaches are gone? When did we get rid of kalani?

cougarfann888

4/15/19 1:53pm

C'mon man, you're smarter than that. Like 6 coaches are gone.

andrewg3

4/15/19 1:54pm

Head coach is the the same, assistant head coach is the same

cougarfann888

4/15/19 1:58pm

We had the #18 defense last year. You don't do a "routine change" for

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:07pm

Too early to say if kalani is part of the problem or not

cougarfann888

4/15/19 2:25pm

I feel like the 2017 UMass and Hawaii games compared to the 2018 games are

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:29pm

Wilson probably made more of a difference this season than coaching did

cougarfann888

4/15/19 2:32pm

Yep, Kalani went and handpicked him.

andrewg3

4/15/19 3:51pm

I would expect UTEP to go 2-10 against this schedule, I hope BYU goes 7-5

BYU Fan

4/15/19 1:57pm

7-5 would be great. Tack a bowl win on for 8-5. Very nice season.

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:05pm

Under current circumstances, I think that would be a great season

BYU Fan

4/15/19 2:19pm

Can you also admit that a 63 finish doesn’t mean BYU is “back”?

Mr. Scoobs

4/15/19 1:59pm

It depends on your definition of "back." I consider an 8-win season to be back,

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:01pm

Then you should applaud that when it happens.

Mr. Scoobs

4/15/19 2:10pm

Not sure why so many people keep calling a 7-6 season a .500 season either.

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:13pm

.500 regular season. Is one game the last 3 years

Mr. Scoobs

4/15/19 2:31pm

The trend actually says we’ll be better this year

puntersarepeople

4/15/19 6:02pm

Love how going “toe to toe” with Utah is now some great indicator of success

cougfanz

4/15/19 2:01pm

It is. Because many on this board believe that Utah has left BYU in the dust.

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:04pm

Ahh, moral victories!

Brisco

4/15/19 5:17pm

Even if last year wasn't bad, it certainly wasn't great.

Bossk82

4/15/19 2:03pm

Exactly.

andrewg3

4/15/19 2:04pm

Should have beaten both the Utes and Donkeys. We’re on their level for sure

Cougar76

4/15/19 2:09pm

I expect BYU to win 8-9 games every year. At least. I think we can do it this

ataylor

4/15/19 2:23pm

I like the following criteria for judging football success:

Resurgens

4/15/19 6:22pm

While UTEP is extreme, likewise one pototoe bowl victory doesn’t mean the last 2

Mr. Scoobs

4/15/19 2:42pm

2002-2004 were pretty bad

BYU Fan

4/15/19 2:51pm

2003 and 2004 had top 15 SOS.

Mr. Scoobs

4/15/19 3:09pm

Clinton: “depends on what the definition of “bad” is”

run26

4/15/19 3:17pm

We were only 7-6 a year ago. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for

kimdaddy35

4/15/19 5:04pm

One minor gripe with your post:

Resurgens

4/15/19 6:16pm

First 4 are extremely tough games. Doesn't mean we are UTEP at all

Croweater

4/15/19 9:03pm

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