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May 15, 2019
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Gentleman Stan
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+Villanova (6500)
Plus a bunch of other private schools who seat less than 10k including Notre Dame, Stanford, Northwestern, St. Joe's, and Duke.
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POLL: Football independence has been a
DKN
Lord of Light 2020
5/14/19 2:39pm
Making the most of a no-win situation.
Indy Coug
5/14/19 2:40pm
board name checks out 🙂
franklyvulgar
5/14/19 2:41pm
So which is it then?
DKN
5/14/19 2:41pm
Although I think Independence has been good
2FarGone
5/14/19 2:43pm
What?
Pretorian
5/14/19 3:05pm
Far from perfect, but generally good. BYU does need to win more... esp at home.
Benfica1
5/14/19 2:47pm
While the program has declined in the period of independence, it is not because
NOCAL_YFAN
5/14/19 2:47pm
And Tom's decision to hire KS.
coolblue
5/14/19 3:36pm
I think the jury is still out on that
NOCAL_YFAN
5/14/19 3:37pm
Tom's decision to force KS to hire Detmer was a bigger problem.
displacedute
5/14/19 4:10pm
And at least be respectable
icecougar
5/14/19 6:57pm
And you KNOW he forced to hire him, how?
Count Cougar
5/14/19 9:22pm
KS went out of his way to throw TD under the bus. He's never done that to Grimes
Iki_Balam
5/14/19 9:59pm
Because Kalani wanted to win games, Tom wanted to win the press conference.
displacedute
5/14/19 10:07pm
Or KS was jealous that his OC was more popular with the fans.
Count Cougar
5/15/19 2:09pm
Bronco's inability to successfully navigate independence during BYU's first few
TrueBlue67
5/14/19 9:06pm
Spot on analysis. Maybe, if we were between 10 and 12 wins in Indy, we could say
Iki_Balam
5/14/19 10:02pm
I think the line between Indy lovers and haters is drawn based on
Pretorian
5/14/19 3:17pm
The goal should be P5 inclusion
puntersarepeople
5/14/19 3:28pm
100x this
COUGND
5/14/19 3:39pm
Exactly
Pretorian
5/14/19 6:07pm
TV has been great. Everything else... marginal.
IronPotato
5/14/19 4:51pm
Zero sum for football and a huge negative for b-ball.
idcougarfan
5/14/19 5:37pm
B-ball isn’t independent and the WCC is better than the MW
Pretorian
5/14/19 6:08pm
Other than Gonzaga, the WCC is not exciting.
idcougarfan
5/14/19 7:03pm
Is Nevada? UNLV was 30 years ago... New Mexico? Or are you still dreaming about
Pretorian
5/15/19 5:30am
Half of the WCC teams have BBall arenas with less then 5k attendance per game
MrCougarLover
5/15/19 9:54am
Yet we still can't win the conference and usually get 3rd.
BYUtka
5/15/19 10:13am
Meanwhile Gonzaga pumps out top 10 teams year in and year out, St. Mary's
fortysixn3
5/15/19 10:30am
We get 3rd because Gonzaga is a great team, no shame in losing to them and
MrCougarLover
5/15/19 10:32am
Because the MWC isn't as good? Why stop there? Why not Big Sky?
BYUtka
5/15/19 12:11pm
Not sure where you are going with this, but Big Sky is definitely not as good as
MrCougarLover
5/15/19 12:18pm
Right, if MWC is an improvement because they are not as good, Big Sky would be
BYUtka
5/15/19 3:53pm
The zags prove that arena size means nothing
Pretorian
5/15/19 1:25pm
+Villanova (6500)
Gentleman Stan
5/15/19 4:00pm
Huge negative in what way? Where would BYU b-ball be now had it stayed MWC?
fortysixn3
5/14/19 9:29pm
Probably a conference championship or two, and more meaningful conference games.
Demosthenes Red
5/14/19 9:31pm
That’s considered huge? So beating the mighty MWC champion (season and tourney)
fortysixn3
5/14/19 9:38pm
So the third place WCC team would win the MWC conference championship?
BYUtka
5/15/19 7:28am
More meaningful? The MWC is not very good.
Gentleman Stan
5/15/19 4:16pm
Meaningful in the sense of regional rivalries.
Demosthenes Red
5/15/19 10:18pm
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BYUtka
5/15/19 7:27am
A good mix between zero sum and positive. Mostly evened out tho.
bigbossbyu
5/15/19 1:42am
Agree with some of the comments above. “Best case scenario under current circumstances” is the missed option.
Refugee
5/15/19 7:24am
Bottom line is...
DaFreeCoug93
5/15/19 1:30pm
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