RE: You do understand what "qualify" means. We "qualify"

Jun 12, 2019
10:45:43am

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a priori

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My parents and I followed the "gospel" plan on paying for my mission and college

DetmerForever

6/12/19 9:58am

I agree with what you're saying from a monetary viewpoint, but disagree that

Preppy

6/12/19 10:06am

Thanks, Brother Wilcox!

kccougar

6/12/19 10:07am

Haha...exactly

Preppy

6/12/19 10:48am

Technically, the Lord doesn't make up the difference. He does it all.

a priori

6/12/19 10:16am

^^is a hack and didn't read the post above

a priori

6/12/19 10:17am

That's nonsensical. For those, like me, destined for the telestial kingdom

rcbyufan

6/12/19 10:25am

Nope.

a priori

6/12/19 10:39am

You do understand what "qualify" means. We "qualify"

rcbyufan

6/12/19 10:42am

RE: You do understand what "qualify" means. We "qualify"

a priori

6/12/19 10:45am

Everybody gets as much as they are willing to receive.

dilbert

6/12/19 12:05pm

So it's on us. We have to do something. That's my position.

rcbyufan

6/12/19 12:15pm

Nobody is disagreeing with that. The question is what our works accomplish.

garyfan

6/12/19 12:20pm

That's just semantics

rcbyufan

6/12/19 12:23pm

It's not semantics.

a priori

6/12/19 12:42pm

Not to me. It’s an important distinction that impacts my motivation/reason for

garyfan

6/12/19 1:44pm

So technically he doesn't do it all. He does everything but our best which we have to do. I mean if we are being

Baron

6/12/19 10:25am

Nope.

a priori

6/12/19 10:37am

So if you don't do your best grace has got it all?

Baron

6/12/19 10:40am

No. Grace always does it all.

a priori

6/12/19 10:41am

So it depends on what you do? I don't see how it does it all but also depends on you.

Baron

6/12/19 10:44am

The distinction is clear:

a priori

6/12/19 10:49am

That distinction is anything but clear at best you are using semantics to make your point by defining it

Baron

6/12/19 10:52am

Yikes...I thought the atonement was infinite. So, how did he not pay in full?

Preppy

6/12/19 10:57am

You always have to make the choice as I stated below. No matter what you have to choose at some

Baron

6/12/19 11:03am

Technically, we have to do something to qualify for his grace.

a priori

6/12/19 11:19am

I interpreted your he does it all to mean you arguing a broader point. If you meant to

Baron

6/12/19 12:39pm

So you're arguing something that was never said?

a priori

6/12/19 12:47pm

You said "He does it all." And then you said again "Grace always does it all"

Baron

6/12/19 12:56pm

I agree that you misunderstood my point.

a priori

6/12/19 1:04pm

So you did not understand my point. Got it.

Baron

6/12/19 2:02pm

We were agreeing all along? Well isn't that just classic CB.

a priori

6/12/19 2:07pm

Exactly, cause Christ asks us to do a lot. So, ya...if you're aiming at

Preppy

6/12/19 11:45am

Christ paid the price already...all of it. So, Christ sets the terms. He judges

Preppy

6/12/19 10:55am

Grace definitely saves everyone...without any effort whatsoever. You don't

Preppy

6/12/19 11:01am

You had to choose to come to earth. There has always been a choice.

Baron

6/12/19 11:02am

So, someone can choose to not accept a resurrection of glory? Uh...I guess

Preppy

6/12/19 11:40am

You guys sound amazing bickering over details neither of you definitively know

HBCoug

6/12/19 10:48am

Welcome to CB!

a priori

6/12/19 10:51am

It's a higher form of interaction here.

rcbyufan

6/12/19 10:58am

I have no doubt. I didn't want to embarrass Baron, but you were totally the

HBCoug

6/12/19 11:04am

RE: I have no doubt. I didn't want to embarrass Baron, but you were totally the

Baron

6/12/19 11:07am

I think one detail needs to be clarified. Christ does not require that

garyfan

6/12/19 11:32am

My oldest son has saved $10,000 for his mission and leaves shortly.

BYU-Ite

6/12/19 10:30am

I have thought about this but never was comfortable with lying about my intent to my kids.

Baron

6/12/19 10:32am

I can understand that. I rationalized mine under the same caveat as,

BYU-Ite

6/12/19 10:42am

I'd recommend letting your son pay for the mission.

jvquarterback

6/12/19 4:13pm

I love this approach and can empathize with your son.

CougaRR4L

6/13/19 10:57am

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