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Jul 17, 2019
6:09:48pm

BeardedSpock All-American

Reading your post, one gets the impression BYU was putting up losing seasons

back to back to back for those 14 years. Amazing that we survived going 99-43 during the lean, desperate Bronco era.

There's a clearly defined line between the first 12 seasons in your timeline, and the last two. We didn't start getting slapped around by Boise State and USU until Bronco left. Why is that?

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Any one else get giddy each time we add to our OL?

CougaRR4L

7/17/19 10:13am

Good post, and I 100% agree.

7/17/19 10:16am

Same with the DL. It is the recipe for us to be competetive IMO

fulano

7/17/19 10:17am

Agreed

CougaRR4L

7/17/19 10:20am

Well said. O-Line and D-Line was really neglected under Bronco's last few years

Richbyu

7/17/19 10:22am

Yet for all this supposed neglect Bronco had no problem putting up 8 and 9 wins

BeardedSpock

7/17/19 6:03pm

fill your schedule with a lot of San Jose St, Idaho, Idaho St, NMSU, UConn, etc

icecougar

7/17/19 6:42pm

We lost to San Jose state. 🥺

PessimisticCB

7/17/19 6:54pm

And lost to UMass (at home) under Kalani. Neither is/was immune from an occasional terrible loss.

SingleStrapBackpack

7/17/19 7:00pm

KS’s sample size too small to say that

Pretorian

7/18/19 7:05am

it's too small to say how BIG of a problem it'll be for him, but it's definitely large enough to see a few bad losses

SingleStrapBackpack

7/18/19 11:48am

Yes. The San Jose State team that ended the season 11-2 and ranked #21

BeardedSpock

7/17/19 7:33pm

You do realize we still play a lot of those same teams, right?

BeardedSpock

7/17/19 7:35pm

Yeah. He got out just as the cupboards were about to be empty

Richbyu

7/17/19 9:46pm

I know it makes you feel good to think that, but it's not anywhere close to true

BeardedSpock

7/18/19 9:08pm

You’re totally right about Bronco, but not about KS, sample size too small and

Pretorian

7/19/19 6:36am

Here are the facts. I repeat. Bronco failed the OLine big time, before he left

Richbyu

7/19/19 11:06am

You’re missing the most important fact....

Pretorian

7/19/19 1:08pm

O-Line depth issues all came home to roost right about the time Sitake was hired

Richbyu

7/19/19 1:50pm

The bigger problem was strategic on O-line recruiting/training. They wanted

TailgateU

7/19/19 2:00pm

Grimes is such a good coach. Quality recruits know that about him.

7/17/19 10:17am

I am so glad he has so much experience as OL coach.

ChiCityCoug

7/17/19 10:20am

Mo is an excellent lineman too.

7/17/19 10:19am

when was Gentry supposed to announce his commitment again?

Mayor of Cougartown

7/17/19 10:21am

He likely won't commit until January/February now

donnerstag

7/17/19 10:29am

so ND has fallen off the list then.

Mayor of Cougartown

7/17/19 10:31am

ND wasn't in his top 4 in his last interview

donnerstag

7/17/19 10:41am

Yes. Bronco's poor recruiting of the O-Line killed our program for a few years.

Richbyu

7/17/19 10:21am

Makes me wonder how much of that was on Weber though

ManicBlue

7/17/19 1:21pm

It was on Bronco.

No touching

7/17/19 4:15pm

Sure, but things did start to improve after 2J came along. Not enough, but

dilbert

7/17/19 4:44pm

2J recruited De'Ondre Wesley, BYU's first NFL OL since the previous decade

icecougar

7/17/19 6:31pm

2J had to get transfers from SUU, our OLine was so depleted.

Richbyu

7/17/19 9:47pm

So winning 10, 8, 8, 8, 9, and 9 games a season is now "killing a program"?

BeardedSpock

7/17/19 6:05pm

Try and at least use logic.

Richbyu

7/17/19 9:49pm

I thought a G5 conference was where BYU should be? Now I’m hearing

Blue2thebone

7/17/19 10:19pm

I don’t follow your logic bro, making the statement that Bronco had a very good

Pretorian

7/18/19 7:08am

Amen, Amen, Amen. Games are won and lost in the trenches. (And QB play)

CObluezone

7/17/19 10:25am

And CB play. And linebackers. And...

TailgateU

7/17/19 11:27am

If your Dline can get pressure, you don't need great CB. (Only serviceable ones)

CObluezone

7/17/19 11:37am

YES! the game is won or lost in the trenches!

Iki_Balam

7/17/19 10:37am

Its really exciting and encouraging that we will soon most likely have our first

7/17/19 10:42am

Are you sure Utah has only had 6 DL drafted in the past 14 years? That seems WAY low to me.

SingleStrapBackpack

7/17/19 12:33pm

My thoughts exactly

Pretorian

7/17/19 1:31pm

Feel free to go count them

7/17/19 1:39pm

Nah, I don't care nearly enough to spend time looking it up. Just seems like way more than that 🙂

SingleStrapBackpack

7/17/19 2:10pm

Aren't you at least missing Nate Orchard? Wasn't he a pretty high pick?

SingleStrapBackpack

7/17/19 2:12pm

He was drafted as a linebacker

7/17/19 2:27pm

C'mon, man. He played DL for Utah. He was listed as a DE in the combine. And he currently plays DE in the NFL.

SingleStrapBackpack

7/17/19 2:41pm

Fine, add him if it means that much to you.

7/17/19 2:49pm

Reading your post, one gets the impression BYU was putting up losing seasons

BeardedSpock

7/17/19 6:09pm

I think about the 2pt try in the 2016 Utah game. One of our OL's whiffed...

icecougar

7/17/19 6:49pm

I have actually been watching a lot of games lately. I watched

PessimisticCB

7/17/19 10:50am

Watched 83 UCLA. Our o line was won that game.

cdr88

7/17/19 11:08am

Like 1983?

PessimisticCB

7/17/19 11:12am

Hhhwhat!!!!! Is that optimism from mr pessimisticCB, that makes me 😁

Pretorian

7/17/19 1:32pm

Oh stop, I give optimism all around. I swear I am the only

PessimisticCB

7/17/19 3:29pm

I like Kalani and the staff.

Benfica1

7/17/19 5:15pm

Me too 👍🏼

Pretorian

7/17/19 5:33pm

You two are my best friends now

PessimisticCB

7/17/19 5:34pm

Sounds good, I knew you couldn’t be that pessimistic

Pretorian

7/17/19 5:36pm

Or could I?

PessimisticCB

7/17/19 5:49pm

Giddy? No. But, very pleased.

Benfica1

7/17/19 11:49am

So important.

wilsdad

7/17/19 1:40pm

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