Let's face it those are two top 10 programs in the country and the reason is they get their pick of any LDS girl they want. If you have a great daughter soccer player volleyball player you get them to BYU. I really believe this is BYU ceiling in every sport.
If BYU got every top LDS football player I truly believe they would be a top-10-15 annually. That's where they'd be if they ever got a P5 invite. Just my opinion.