If our players are saying that we need different players. Like I said, I highly

Oct 12, 2019
9:03:05pm

IceCreamButt All-American

Doubt competitive d1 players are saying who cares if we lose, we don't have a conference championship to fight for.

Guys like that, for the most part, don't get to this high of a level. They are competitors.

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Conference, conference, conference

byu2015

10/12/19 8:30pm

Conference masks the horrendous problem that is this program

Myboyblue

10/12/19 8:32pm

That is part of the problem BYU’s ceiling as Indy was the Indy bronco years

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 8:37pm

When BYU used to dominate the WAC I wondered what all those 2-4 teams felt like

OU Cougar

10/12/19 8:33pm

A lack of a conference isn't the problem

DapperDan

10/12/19 8:34pm

Of all our problems Independence is barely a blip on the radar of trouble.

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:34pm

RE: Of all our problems Independence is barely a blip on the radar of trouble.

byu2015

10/12/19 8:38pm

Softening the schedule would only mean losses against more bad teams.It wouldn't

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:43pm

If you think a conference fixes this, I have some oceanfront property in

macdizzle

10/12/19 8:35pm

We had 2 emotionally charged wins vs p5s thank you very much!

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 8:35pm

Yes, we do. Hopefully someday we can get a real one.

LiveCoug

10/12/19 8:36pm

Ask the players if they want to join a G5 conference, and whether...

Bandersnatch

10/12/19 8:37pm

Graduate assistant in my ward that played and coached under bronco said going

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 8:39pm

Early independent schedules weren't great; wonder if that factored in for those

Bandersnatch

10/12/19 8:43pm

RE: Graduate assistant in my ward that played and coached under bronco said

93grad

10/12/19 9:32pm

Ty'Son Williams specifically sited our Big Stage games as a main draw to BYU. We

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:44pm

Well that explains are 70+ recruiting classes and G5’s like Boise that out

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 8:46pm

Honor Code, Academics...

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:53pm

Agreed that goes into as well I don’t think playing a few more p5 big games

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 8:56pm

And losing to more G5 teams would hurt it more. No benfit to joining a G5.

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:58pm

On byu’s best years we are a good to great g5, it’s where we belong sorry

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 9:04pm

The landscape of college football is SOOO different now. That wouldn't work for

BYUtka

10/12/19 9:09pm

Yeah, but due to our too-difficult-schedule, he was out of the season very early

byu2015

10/12/19 9:07pm

RE: Yeah, but due to our too-difficult-schedule, he was out of the season very

byu2015

10/12/19 9:09pm

Also reason to play is stupid. What competitive d1 football player is ok with

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 8:39pm

RE: Also reason to play is stupid. What competitive d1 football player is ok

byu2015

10/12/19 8:48pm

If our players are saying that we need different players. Like I said, I highly

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:03pm

You lose one as Indy and you have nothing left to play for.

AlphaCoug

10/12/19 8:55pm

I never said anything about relevance. If I was playing on tv I wouldn't be

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:07pm

Would you work without a performance review?

byu2015

10/12/19 9:11pm

They have a performance review 12 weeks a year regardless of conference

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:20pm

This is a tired argument. I don't want to go G5, but this whole trope about how

Ash

10/12/19 11:23pm

Disagree strongly there. Have you played sports?

Resurgens

10/13/19 12:00am

I have played more sports than anyone I know. Some people are ultra competitive

Ash

10/13/19 10:07pm

Agree to disagree I guess. If BYU needs a MWC championship to motivate them,

Resurgens

10/14/19 9:24pm

Unfortunately there are still a lot of athletes that are externally motivated

Coug Man in Florida

10/14/19 10:13pm

Exactly. It's naive to assume an entire team's motivation.

Ash

10/15/19 12:42am

Why join a g5 when you can’t beat them?

slccoug

10/12/19 8:48pm

RE: Why join a g5 when you can’t beat them?

byu2015

10/12/19 8:50pm

This logic is insane. We can't tell if we are improving because we play random

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:12pm

I think this is the point.

byu2015

10/12/19 9:24pm

How is that the point? I disagreed with you and you said that's the point? BYU

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:31pm

Following a conference race is fun.

AlphaCoug

10/12/19 8:54pm

Here’s the questions that you need to answer to support your hypothesis

Greg Kite's 'stache

10/12/19 8:49pm

These are all fair points.

byu2015

10/12/19 8:57pm

How do you know we'd suffer less injuries?

Huge Manatee

10/12/19 9:00pm

If anything I think we get injured more against these smaller teams trying to

BYUtka

10/12/19 9:04pm

True. But...

byu2015

10/12/19 9:14pm

We came into USF after a two week break. Tired/Worn out from playing P5s should

BYUtka

10/12/19 9:17pm

BYU wouldn’t be like Boise State

Greg Kite's 'stache

10/12/19 9:14pm

Unfortunately you're 100% right.

byu2015

10/12/19 9:16pm

The only benefit I see to joining a G5 is if BYU dominates the conference for

Myboyblue

10/12/19 9:07pm

Yeah that's why we need to get started now. It will take time.

byu2015

10/12/19 9:16pm

I'll take being in a FCS conference right now.

Jagger

10/12/19 9:10pm

What’s sad is even if we beat Toledo and USF we go to the same bowl

Coug Man in Florida

10/12/19 10:35pm

Stop speaking truth to pro indy guys, they have a hard time accepting it.

Big McLargeHuge

10/12/19 11:15pm

Lol yeah losing to UNM and Wyoming is definitely going to fix our problems

Resurgens

10/12/19 11:26pm

Nope

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