Unfortunately you're 100% right.

Oct 12, 2019
9:16:05pm

byu2015 Walk-on

So we do just realize our trajectory will never be the same? Settle for less and get into where we belong now, instead of where we used to be? Either way you're right. Independence is tough.

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byu2015

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Conference, conference, conference

byu2015

10/12/19 8:30pm

Conference masks the horrendous problem that is this program

Myboyblue

10/12/19 8:32pm

That is part of the problem BYU’s ceiling as Indy was the Indy bronco years

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 8:37pm

When BYU used to dominate the WAC I wondered what all those 2-4 teams felt like

OU Cougar

10/12/19 8:33pm

A lack of a conference isn't the problem

DapperDan

10/12/19 8:34pm

Of all our problems Independence is barely a blip on the radar of trouble.

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:34pm

RE: Of all our problems Independence is barely a blip on the radar of trouble.

byu2015

10/12/19 8:38pm

Softening the schedule would only mean losses against more bad teams.It wouldn't

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:43pm

If you think a conference fixes this, I have some oceanfront property in

macdizzle

10/12/19 8:35pm

We had 2 emotionally charged wins vs p5s thank you very much!

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 8:35pm

Yes, we do. Hopefully someday we can get a real one.

LiveCoug

10/12/19 8:36pm

Ask the players if they want to join a G5 conference, and whether...

Bandersnatch

10/12/19 8:37pm

Graduate assistant in my ward that played and coached under bronco said going

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 8:39pm

Early independent schedules weren't great; wonder if that factored in for those

Bandersnatch

10/12/19 8:43pm

RE: Graduate assistant in my ward that played and coached under bronco said

93grad

10/12/19 9:32pm

Ty'Son Williams specifically sited our Big Stage games as a main draw to BYU. We

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:44pm

Well that explains are 70+ recruiting classes and G5’s like Boise that out

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 8:46pm

Honor Code, Academics...

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:53pm

Agreed that goes into as well I don’t think playing a few more p5 big games

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 8:56pm

And losing to more G5 teams would hurt it more. No benfit to joining a G5.

BYUtka

10/12/19 8:58pm

On byu’s best years we are a good to great g5, it’s where we belong sorry

franklyvulgar

10/12/19 9:04pm

The landscape of college football is SOOO different now. That wouldn't work for

BYUtka

10/12/19 9:09pm

Yeah, but due to our too-difficult-schedule, he was out of the season very early

byu2015

10/12/19 9:07pm

RE: Yeah, but due to our too-difficult-schedule, he was out of the season very

byu2015

10/12/19 9:09pm

Also reason to play is stupid. What competitive d1 football player is ok with

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 8:39pm

RE: Also reason to play is stupid. What competitive d1 football player is ok

byu2015

10/12/19 8:48pm

If our players are saying that we need different players. Like I said, I highly

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:03pm

You lose one as Indy and you have nothing left to play for.

AlphaCoug

10/12/19 8:55pm

I never said anything about relevance. If I was playing on tv I wouldn't be

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:07pm

Would you work without a performance review?

byu2015

10/12/19 9:11pm

They have a performance review 12 weeks a year regardless of conference

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:20pm

This is a tired argument. I don't want to go G5, but this whole trope about how

Ash

10/12/19 11:23pm

Disagree strongly there. Have you played sports?

Resurgens

10/13/19 12:00am

I have played more sports than anyone I know. Some people are ultra competitive

Ash

10/13/19 10:07pm

Agree to disagree I guess. If BYU needs a MWC championship to motivate them,

Resurgens

10/14/19 9:24pm

Unfortunately there are still a lot of athletes that are externally motivated

Coug Man in Florida

10/14/19 10:13pm

Exactly. It's naive to assume an entire team's motivation.

Ash

10/15/19 12:42am

Why join a g5 when you can’t beat them?

slccoug

10/12/19 8:48pm

RE: Why join a g5 when you can’t beat them?

byu2015

10/12/19 8:50pm

This logic is insane. We can't tell if we are improving because we play random

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:12pm

I think this is the point.

byu2015

10/12/19 9:24pm

How is that the point? I disagreed with you and you said that's the point? BYU

IceCreamButt

10/12/19 9:31pm

Following a conference race is fun.

AlphaCoug

10/12/19 8:54pm

Here’s the questions that you need to answer to support your hypothesis

Greg Kite's 'stache

10/12/19 8:49pm

These are all fair points.

byu2015

10/12/19 8:57pm

How do you know we'd suffer less injuries?

Huge Manatee

10/12/19 9:00pm

If anything I think we get injured more against these smaller teams trying to

BYUtka

10/12/19 9:04pm

True. But...

byu2015

10/12/19 9:14pm

We came into USF after a two week break. Tired/Worn out from playing P5s should

BYUtka

10/12/19 9:17pm

BYU wouldn’t be like Boise State

Greg Kite's 'stache

10/12/19 9:14pm

Unfortunately you're 100% right.

byu2015

10/12/19 9:16pm

The only benefit I see to joining a G5 is if BYU dominates the conference for

Myboyblue

10/12/19 9:07pm

Yeah that's why we need to get started now. It will take time.

byu2015

10/12/19 9:16pm

I'll take being in a FCS conference right now.

Jagger

10/12/19 9:10pm

What’s sad is even if we beat Toledo and USF we go to the same bowl

Coug Man in Florida

10/12/19 10:35pm

Stop speaking truth to pro indy guys, they have a hard time accepting it.

Big McLargeHuge

10/12/19 11:15pm

Lol yeah losing to UNM and Wyoming is definitely going to fix our problems

Resurgens

10/12/19 11:26pm

Nope

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