Or confident that he can succeed and parlay this into something bigger while making a ton more money. I think if you got somebody like Hill or Scalley, they would both see it the same way. With Pope, people were saying the same thing the board has said with Hill about him staying at UVU because of the obstacles and challenges at BYU and by miracle of all miracles, he took BYU with the BOT and the salary increase. People need to understand, there are only so many million dollar jobs around. I am sure a lot of the information he's been given about the challenges of the program have come from the current staff since many of them used to work with Jay. I think at the very least, he'd listen to Tom's pitch.