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Oct 21, 2019
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whiteninja
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Huh...BYU model to success? What exactly is that model because I don't see it.
I don't see anything that Boise does that represents with BYU did.
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What BSU fans don’t get (and why they hate us), is that we are not in awe of ...
BluesBrother
10/20/19 7:48pm
I don’t get what you are saying.
AZPTCOUG
10/20/19 7:50pm
Trust me, they are worshipped by the Boise media. Their fans honestly believe
BluesBrother
10/20/19 7:52pm
I can attest
BYU '80
10/20/19 7:55pm
Well in the past 10 years they probably are light years ahead of us.
Blue for Life
10/20/19 7:57pm
We just beat them w/ our third string QB and they were #14
SaintGeorgeYFan
10/20/19 10:52pm
IF we go back to the mwc we will
BYU '80
10/20/19 11:39pm
And yet they can't fill their 35,000 seat stadium.
mrphotogenic
10/20/19 7:58pm
I went to the 2016 game in Boise. Just like last night, they were undefeated and
ataylor
10/20/19 8:11pm
Went to a game last year...
CoachSpeak
10/20/19 8:51pm
Boise is definitely not a football town.. they have a hardcore group but the
cougfanz
10/20/19 9:06pm
I see nothing of Portland in Boise
Punk Philosopher
10/20/19 10:27pm
They have a huge following here
BYU '80
10/20/19 11:37pm
Maybe it was all the port-o-potties fans had to use
SUAVO
10/20/19 8:55pm
That’s fair. I think we are currently on about even footing with them...
AZPTCOUG
10/20/19 8:01pm
You think BYU is on equal footing with Boise State? Interesting.
Jdoc
10/21/19 7:42am
We did just beat them.
AZPTCOUG
10/21/19 7:58am
South Carolina just beat Georgia. Teams that
Jdoc
10/21/19 8:06am
We could join the MWC and schedule 1 P5 a year
stoils
10/21/19 10:39am
Boise State and Utah don’t lose to teams like NIU, Toledo,
Jdoc
10/21/19 11:01am
Right, Utah loses to bad ASU, CO, WSU teams now
stoils
10/21/19 11:08am
Are you really comparing ASU, WSU and Colorado to teams like UMASS,
Jdoc
10/21/19 11:23am
I actually didn't say BYU was a better program now than Utah
stoils
10/21/19 11:47am
Utah's opportunities were caused by BYU. Really? How so?
Jdoc
10/21/19 11:52am
If you don't understand that yet, then you never will
stoils
10/21/19 12:51pm
Ha, you actually believe that, don't you? All because of BYU. Hilarious.
Jdoc
10/21/19 1:21pm
I believe it...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 2:30pm
I agree that BYU's National Championship in 1984 led to changes that were meant
Jdoc
10/21/19 2:42pm
By the way, the 1996 and 2001 BYU teams each lost
Jdoc
10/21/19 1:27pm
This isn't my fight - so I'm mostly staying out of it.
Eddie
10/21/19 1:41pm
Stoils seems to think BYU is the reason why
Jdoc
10/21/19 1:52pm
Hey - all of Utah's success is because of BYU.
Eddie
10/21/19 2:22pm
That's pretty good logic. I like it!
Jdoc
10/21/19 2:29pm
Which teams led to the change then?
stoils
10/21/19 3:03pm
Houston, East Carolina, Toledo, Tulane, Air Force, Boise State, BYU, etc.
Jdoc
10/21/19 3:25pm
What are you talking about? I'm talking about leading up to 2004
stoils
10/22/19 8:31am
Actually BYU 1996 went to he cotton bowl, that’s a big bowl...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 2:32pm
You could argue that BYU both created and forced a fix, to a certain degree.
Eddie
10/21/19 2:43pm
I completely agree with your first point. I agree that BYU played some
Jdoc
10/21/19 2:52pm
Not really, see my post above
stoils
10/22/19 8:40am
When I said big bowl I meant, Rose, Orange, Fiesta and Sugar. The big
Jdoc
10/21/19 2:51pm
I’m pretty sure it’s part of the 6 bowl playoff system...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 5:40pm
It’s a really good bowl, but behind the big 4.
Jdoc
10/21/19 7:09pm
How is it behind any bowl? It’s part of the 6 bowl playoff system...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 8:30pm
When BYU played in it in 1996 it was behind
Jdoc
10/21/19 9:50pm
Also, by your logic, BYU ruined Utah's chances at a National Championship in
Jdoc
10/21/19 2:06pm
Wait are you a Ute fan and conceding BYU was a national champ in ‘84
D.T. Survivor
10/21/19 2:17pm
That's right. They deserved it. They ran the table and nobody else
Jdoc
10/21/19 2:18pm
Depends on the other teams schedules.
Eddie
10/21/19 2:20pm
Ouch
stoils
10/21/19 2:44pm
Not necessarily...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 2:37pm
No necessarily. Utah's schedule was tougher than BYU's schedule in 1984.t
Jdoc
10/21/19 2:49pm
You can't compare teams across seasons.
Eddie
10/21/19 3:10pm
We aren’t talking about a team playing in a year different from the one they...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 5:47pm
Actually Utah did lose to USU...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 11:42am
Utah State has beaten Utah once in the last 20 years. Utah is 13-1 against Utah
Jdoc
10/21/19 11:50am
Usu beat Utah since Utah entered the pac12...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 12:04pm
I agree Utah loses to bad teams at times. My issue is with some
Jdoc
10/21/19 12:12pm
I agree with that, Boise is a better program at this time...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 12:30pm
Meh. The USU loss was Wilson's first start
TFL
10/21/19 12:28pm
Yes, BYU should go back to the MWC. However, that may not change
Jdoc
10/21/19 2:59pm
Actually BYU was in the fiesta bowl 30 years before Utah was...
CoachSpeak
10/21/19 5:49pm
That’s true. They played in 1974 and lost to Oklahoma State
Jdoc
10/21/19 7:11pm
“As BSU now is, BYU once was; as BYU now is, BSU may be”....but haven't we hoped
mrphotogenic
10/20/19 8:03pm
They are.
cougfanz
10/20/19 8:42pm
I doubt BYU takes them lightly
Belboz
10/20/19 7:52pm
I didn’t say we do! I just said we’re not psyched out by them.
BluesBrother
10/20/19 7:53pm
We as fans or the team?
Belboz
10/20/19 7:54pm
The team.
BluesBrother
10/20/19 8:15pm
I'm not so sure how we could know that about them.
Belboz
10/20/19 8:26pm
Maybe by watching how our team plays against them?
BluesBrother
10/20/19 8:28pm
BYU didn't storm the field.
Benfica1
10/20/19 8:57pm
BYU was on the field already.
Belboz
10/21/19 11:18am
So was the storm.
Benfica1
10/23/19 7:24am
I don't view them as a step down from the P5 teams we play. I think they're on
Jesse Pinkman
10/20/19 7:53pm
uh, I think we are like 3-9 all time against them.
HeismanTy
10/20/19 7:54pm
Even in down years BYU competes well with them
BYU '80
10/20/19 7:57pm
Dont we say the same thing about Utah too though?
rggee
10/20/19 8:09pm
Our team plays scared vs. Utah, which is the problem.
BluesBrother
10/20/19 8:10pm
I think the actual players would resent this because
Fifty Shades of Blue
10/20/19 8:58pm
I’m just saying how it looks on the field to me. Agree to disagree.
BluesBrother
10/20/19 9:10pm
BYU never leads against Utah. They have on a number of occasions against Bsu
BYU '80
10/20/19 9:02pm
27-7?
SingleStrapBackpack
10/20/19 10:27pm
I have blocked that game from memory. Thanks a lot
BYU '80
10/20/19 11:35pm
Umm, I think it’s a bad night for reading comprehension skills.
BluesBrother
10/20/19 7:59pm
3-7
STL
10/20/19 8:37pm
So we could easily be 6-4 or better
BYU '80
10/20/19 8:58pm
They are a good program and have followed the BYU model to success.
idcougarfan
10/20/19 7:56pm
I have no connection to BSU, but I generally like them and root for them.
Benfica1
10/20/19 8:38pm
Respect them? Sure. Fear them? Well, I’m glad our team doesn’t.
BluesBrother
10/20/19 8:44pm
Fear? No. I do hate the gimmicky blue turf. Horrible on the eyes (TV).
Benfica1
10/20/19 8:51pm
Huh...BYU model to success? What exactly is that model because I don't see it.
whiteninja
10/21/19 9:21am
I do agree that despite the fact that boyzee has a winning record against us
LiveCoug
10/20/19 7:56pm
I’m glad someone can read. Thank you for seeing my point.
BluesBrother
10/20/19 8:00pm
The difference is Utah has 5-7 NFL guys
stoils
10/21/19 3:37am
I’m in awe of it and so should you. We lost our mojo...
Coug
10/20/19 8:05pm
I’m not in awe of any team that scores only 14 pts. at home vs. Marshall.
BluesBrother
10/20/19 8:05pm
And what did we score against UMASS 2 years ago? Clown post bro
Coug
10/20/19 8:26pm
Reread my original post. Where did I say their team should be in awe of us?
BluesBrother
10/20/19 8:29pm
You think BluesBrother was in awe of the BYU team two hrs ago?
Florwood
10/20/19 8:30pm
I don't like this take.
BYUCougarsFan
10/20/19 8:13pm
BSU fans are among the worst anywhere
PickleButton
10/20/19 8:26pm
Largely true although their myopic viewpoint is the main annoyance
BYU '80
10/20/19 8:59pm
Can we pull the Kwhitt "week in week out" card?
SUAVO
10/20/19 8:34pm
You are simply talking out your porthole, dude
Fifty Shades of Blue
10/20/19 8:53pm
SMH. That’s a straw man argument. I’m not talking about respect, but fear. ...
BluesBrother
10/20/19 9:01pm
Op never said they weren’t the better program. They are right now
BYU '80
10/20/19 9:01pm
Oh they definitely would drop significantly if in a P5
cougfanz
10/20/19 9:04pm
I agree. JUst saying their current success
BYU '80
10/20/19 9:08pm
Seriously. Pull out a three point win at home against a team that has an
cougfanz
10/20/19 9:02pm
Their fans hate BYU. Even the lds ones
BYU '80
10/20/19 9:04pm
Yet another straw man. I never said or implied we are superior.
BluesBrother
10/20/19 9:08pm
Yea I couldn’t really understand what you were saying..
cougfanz
10/20/19 9:09pm
If the series played out consistent with our perceived reputations ....
BluesBrother
10/20/19 9:13pm
They are not better by the metric of this year's head-to-head record.
ochobeeguy
10/20/19 10:30pm
Curious, honest question. How does BSU’s
TFL
10/20/19 9:29pm
So we play them competitively but lose most games
D.T. Survivor
10/20/19 9:32pm
Nah. I don't think that's it.
Eddie
10/20/19 10:09pm
Look, I'm just as glad as the next guy that we won
Byu_1988
10/20/19 10:38pm
Why do you think everyone hates us???
Palestra
10/20/19 11:49pm
I disagree... and I think you're proving why we deserve to be hated by them.
Ned Schneebly
10/21/19 9:00am
SMH. Yet another straw man. I never said they weren’t a good program, ....
BluesBrother
10/21/19 11:34am
"We’ve been where they think they are, and aren’t so sure they deserve it."
Ned Schneebly
10/21/19 12:17pm
Oops, meant as a reply to your reply to me above.
Ned Schneebly
10/21/19 12:17pm
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