For the fire Tuiaki crowd some numbers. 14th, 46th, 24th, 51st. Thats where BYU

Nov 18, 2019
12:26:29pm

Blueto All-American

defense has finished(2019 is incomplete) in total Defense under Tuiaki.

I haven't loved the defense this session but I'm not seeing the urgency to fire him.

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For the fire Tuiaki crowd some numbers. 14th, 46th, 24th, 51st. Thats where BYU

Blueto

11/18/19 12:26pm

Scheme. Tuaki philosophy is 3 down with 8 drop. How do you explain QB pressure

MajorZeus

11/18/19 12:27pm

I'm wondering why that scheme had changed so much in a year and why we keep

mwcoug

11/18/19 12:29pm

probably due in part to the injuries in the defensive backfield and Tuiaki not

Saxa

11/18/19 12:37pm

Tuiaki ran the sack-lake-city d-line at Yewtah in 2013 & 14. He got 39 sacks in 2013 and 55 sacks in 2014. He's been

HarlemCoug

11/18/19 12:41pm

He had nothing to do the the Utah defense. He was a DL coach

kotacoug

11/18/19 12:43pm

being the DL coach of a P5 team with 94 sacks in 2 years isn't relevant experience? please show me a list of candidates

HarlemCoug

11/18/19 12:51pm

Being a DL coach doesn’t mean jack in regards to developing,

kotacoug

11/18/19 1:25pm

What happened? He's the DL and DC coach of a team this yr with 10 total sacks.

ManicBlue

11/18/19 1:30pm

So you’re saying CB gets to hire the next DC?

icecougar

11/18/19 4:15pm

No evidence? The D performed better against BSU, and USU.

Metallicat

11/18/19 3:52pm

Lol. No evidence available? We’re 3/4 the way through the season.

pilot17

11/18/19 4:00pm

So he can't recruit - big drop when not using Bronco's players

BigTex

11/18/19 12:28pm

Or that he can’t coach...it’s possible the talent is as good or better than

pilot17

11/18/19 4:18pm

BYU was 18th in total defense last year

Indy Coug

11/18/19 12:29pm

As you know, total defense doesn't adjust for BYU's slow pace of play

BYU Fan

11/18/19 12:30pm

BYU's defense had to defend almost exactly the NCAA average number of plays, BYU's offensive tempo notwithstanding.

Indy Coug

11/18/19 12:32pm

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Blueto

11/18/19 12:31pm

We need SOS adjusted numbers. Or direct comparisons with the other teams they

darkcoug

11/18/19 12:37pm

Problem is that now all of Bronco’ players are gone

claw

11/18/19 1:59pm

BYU gave up 157 yards rushing to Idaho State, mighty E Wash gave up 131

BYU Fan

11/18/19 12:29pm

Most of that came on two plays, one of which was right after the scrubs went in.

Indy Coug

11/18/19 12:30pm

Hack — with almost the exact same comment at the same time.

MikeDitka'sStache

11/18/19 12:30pm

But many contributors were still in

BYU '80

11/18/19 2:08pm

When it's 42-3, I really don't care that much what happens with the defense on a single play

Indy Coug

11/18/19 3:07pm

Most of that was 2 plays, and the 2nd was with the 3rd stringers in the game

MikeDitka'sStache

11/18/19 12:30pm

There still a lot of contributors in on defense

BYU '80

11/18/19 2:09pm

You do realize those yards were given up when back ups were in right?

PessimisticCB

11/18/19 12:37pm

His style is the opposite of Bronco's which BYU fans learned to love.

MikeDitka'sStache

11/18/19 12:30pm

this combined with Tuiaki and Sitake stating they wanted to bring a defensive

Littlerich

11/18/19 12:33pm

It is similar. Both have 11 players on defense.

dadofkhec

11/18/19 12:54pm

Total defense sucks as a metric FEI ratings,38th, 67th,62nd, and 76th.

CarolinaCoug

11/18/19 12:35pm

🏆

BigYfan

11/18/19 12:37pm

Even if you want to use those numbers I don't see it supporting the position

Blueto

11/18/19 12:42pm

So he's middle of the road with upper tier talent? No wait, scratch that.

Indy Coug

11/18/19 12:44pm

Trending from very average to below average

icecougar

11/18/19 4:22pm

So what I'm reading from CC's post is that the 2018 defense wasn't any good

Indy Coug

11/18/19 12:49pm

BYU needs better. Do we want to he meh, but not horrible? Then keep Tuiaki, he

pinolero

11/18/19 5:18pm

If Tuiaki was let go, you think any FBS school is going to be jumping at the

oryguncoug

11/18/19 12:40pm

He would not find a DC job anywhere FCS or FBS.

kotacoug

11/18/19 12:42pm

FBS he could without too much problem.

mudpupper

11/18/19 1:03pm

FBS?

ManicBlue

11/18/19 1:14pm

I’m not for firing any one but

stonecougar

11/18/19 12:58pm

Total Defense doesn't tell the entire story. Also, it's telling that his best yr

ManicBlue

11/18/19 1:13pm

Valid points.

Blueto

11/18/19 1:26pm

No sacks against an fcs school is telling

BYU '80

11/18/19 2:07pm

Or USF which is near the bottom in the nation for giving up sacks

ldssdl

11/18/19 2:17pm

In particular this, as USF were susceptible to pressure and couldn't throw and Tuiaki was dropping 8 and playing the

No touching

11/18/19 3:43pm

Doesn't pass the eyeball test for sure. Those losses were so embarrassing

Preppy

11/18/19 5:50pm

Yes, our DL group performed a lot better when Steve Kaufusi was coaching them...

icecougar

11/18/19 4:25pm

The defense hasn't been the reason for the inconsistent play since 2016

BeardedSpock

11/18/19 1:42pm

right, the offense gave up 28 unanswered point to Utah last year

Littlerich

11/18/19 1:52pm

IF the offense had scored any points it would have helped

BYU '80

11/18/19 2:10pm

I am not saying the offense is without fault, but to say the offense is the

Littlerich

11/18/19 2:41pm

I agree with you overall

BYU '80

11/18/19 6:03pm

The difference IMO is that the offense is showing improvement and the defense is

ManicBlue

11/18/19 1:57pm

Drop however many, the defense is agonizing to watch. It's embarrassing to see teams

lightmann

11/18/19 4:08pm

65th before Idaho State. The numbers will continue to climb as BYU plays crap

pinolero

11/18/19 5:59pm

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