He will literally never have a winning record against his rival

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Nov 18, 2019
4:44:06pm

Gathers Walk-on

He will literally never have a winning record against his rival

Say he coaches for 10 years. He’d have go 5-1 against the Utes just to be .500

That isn’t happening. Most schools fire their coach for losing the rivalry game! We just extended ours!

Shows that the expectations have been lowered in my opinion...granted maybe rightfully so in the current climate but this is a sad day for me.

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This will not be a popular opinion on this board, but taking a 50,000 foot

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:10pm

It might be a great time to jump ship

Indy Coug

11/18/19 12:11pm

KimDaddy is complaining about KS? Unheard of.

Benfica1

11/18/19 6:00pm

Just stop!

Blue2thebone

11/18/19 6:55pm

Stop what? The idea of supporting who the current coach is?

ReggaeCoug

11/18/19 8:24pm

please just stop!

Blue2thebone

11/19/19 12:54am

You're encouraging him to leave the island? Come on, man....

BleedCougarBlue2

11/18/19 7:30pm

Gary Crowton's record wasn't the #1 reason he got fired

11/18/19 12:11pm

It's because off the field stuff had spiraled out of control

Indy Coug

11/18/19 12:12pm

Yep...

Refugee

11/18/19 12:16pm

The Crowton effect is still felt across multiple sports

stonecougar

11/18/19 1:12pm

What is the Crowton effect?

CougarTailDevourer

11/18/19 7:33pm

just STOP already

Blue2thebone

11/19/19 12:54am

Oh, please stop just please.

Benfica1

11/19/19 8:05am

Yes it was.

11/18/19 4:45pm

No, it wasn’t.

Indy Coug

11/18/19 6:20pm

Yes it was. He was gone no matter what else happened.

11/18/19 6:36pm

No he wasn’t.

Indy Coug

11/18/19 8:32pm

Yes he was. Want to keep going?

11/18/19 8:51pm

Apparently you think Pres Samuelson is a liar. Good for you.

Indy Coug

11/18/19 9:00pm

No it wasn’t. I’ve been told by two separate GA’s that were involved.

Cougar Jazz Fan

11/18/19 7:20pm

Admin already put pressure on before that season and then he went

11/18/19 7:55pm

So Lip ignores people who have info from the horse’s mouth

Indy Coug

11/18/19 8:33pm

Wahhhh, if he goes 8-5 or 9-4 same as bronco 4/5 years as Indy

franklyvulgar

11/18/19 12:13pm

The problem with that is that Holmoe called 8-5

pspack41

11/18/19 7:17pm

You are right.

kccougar

11/18/19 12:13pm

Because no dissenting opinions can exist in a massive fan base

vegas guey

11/18/19 12:40pm

No, because he sounds miserable. If his post is the way he really feels, he should go find a new team to cheer for

kccougar

11/18/19 12:43pm

And many on here wonder why Aggies and Utes think of BYU fans

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:43pm

You were the one making the argument to find another team. I just agreed with you.

kccougar

11/18/19 12:45pm

Agree 💯

kahuna

11/18/19 1:43pm

Joining the countless number of former Cougar Fans who have de-prioritized

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:41pm

For your fiery original post, you sure seem sensitive

D.T. Survivor

11/18/19 5:06pm

Well you said it yourself, "this may not be a popular opinion" so why are you

Johnny Vatos

11/18/19 5:39pm

Lame. Seriously. Does every disagreement have to go the ultimate extreme?

777

11/18/19 1:00pm

Kimdaddy is the one suggesting he will stop supporting BYU.

JuicyJam

11/18/19 1:01pm

Maybe so, I missed that part, but this isn't the first time I've seen this

777

11/18/19 1:03pm

Maybe you should have read the OP in it's entirety.

SaintGeorgeYFan

11/18/19 6:34pm

Yes

Garn

11/18/19 7:15pm

Are you new to the internet? That’s kind of how CB works.

CrimsonCardinal

11/18/19 8:48pm

I think many agree with some of your points, but it is now a done deal. Time to support the players and program.

11/18/19 12:15pm

Ya- just like crowton, he is not HC material

claw

11/18/19 12:15pm

We could go from 6-4 to 9-4 or 8-5 with a lot of young guys playing

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:16pm

Problem is that BYU always has a lot of young guys playing for some reason

BYU '80

11/18/19 6:05pm

We were older in 2015 and 2016

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 8:50pm

Go give your resources to utah, they're full of disgruntled byu hating people.

CougarBuddy

11/18/19 12:16pm

Hard pass. We have too many negative ignorant know nothing about

DocPimp

11/18/19 12:18pm

Yeah, way too many yewts who can't form a proper sentence

vegas guey

11/18/19 12:42pm

Always a great day when you can incite English Language smack.

DocPimp

11/18/19 1:11pm

*cite

SierraCoug

11/18/19 1:39pm

INcite. As in ‘incite’ the grammar neeerrrrdddssss.

DocPimp

11/18/19 4:04pm

Well, aren't you special.

SierraCoug

11/18/19 5:16pm

I think so.

DocPimp

11/18/19 5:25pm

you make a good argument. I wouldn't dismiss what you say outright. I do think

11/18/19 12:16pm

He's improving. I like it, just change up the defense.

11/18/19 12:17pm

Yes. And bring in some decent J.C. REAL pass-rushing D.E.'s.

AntiSNOT

11/18/19 9:12pm

Our recruiting rankings are lower, yet that underclassment talent is outplaying

molodyets

11/18/19 12:17pm

The idea that the talent is worse is so bizarre to me

Tangotongo

11/18/19 12:24pm

And we seem to be getting some more speed at WR

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:26pm

The bigger issue is how can we restructure resource allocation

Slicey'J

11/18/19 12:58pm

This is what gives me hope, I'm not necessarily sold on Kalani, but the depth

Cougar8Duck

11/18/19 5:21pm

I wonder if our team will get “old”

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 5:33pm

Its been said that we're tied with Purdue for most freshman

Cougar8Duck

11/18/19 6:46pm

started I think

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 7:21pm

The idea of just picking a new team is bizarre.

JuicyJam

11/18/19 12:18pm

Nowhere did I ever say I would simply pick a new team

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:23pm

Pretty close. "Maybe I should put my resources into a team with higher goals."

JuicyJam

11/18/19 12:25pm

That team would be the Colorado Avalanche

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:27pm

Kalani has been very average but he is so likable everyone wants him to succeed

jes2332

11/18/19 12:19pm

It was pretty clear going into this season that bowl eligibility would buy

ataylor

11/18/19 12:20pm

That 2017 season was a debacle, and the Toledo & USF games this year reminded me

11/18/19 12:21pm

He beat 2 ranked teams, destroyed Utah state, and a road P5 win

arizonacougarfan

11/18/19 12:23pm

So you subscribe to the notion that BYU fans should be happy being the 50th best

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:26pm

I’ll take 50th place playing third string QBs and RBs all day

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:27pm

Sad

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:29pm

It’s not sad. It’s reality

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:38pm

BYU's QB play only improved with the other QBs

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:40pm

Reread it

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:48pm

Yes. Its a miracle BYU is that high. This is farving BYU were talking about here

Backcountry

11/18/19 3:56pm

KimDadd35...With whoever you think is the "right" coach, what should BYU's

BYURider

11/18/19 7:09pm

& lost to Toledo & USF. You conveniently forgot those. Gotta factor them in too.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/18/19 7:38pm

He’s on track for 8-9 wins this year

11/18/19 12:27pm

If he beats SDSU or a win in the bowl game. 7-6 is a possibility as well

Hawk Talons

11/18/19 3:52pm

But if Bronco were here we definitely would have gone 17 and -3

Backcountry

11/18/19 3:56pm

its not a big contract...so I'm not worried about it.

Avery

11/18/19 12:37pm

Bar of expectations has been lowered. Same fans a few years ago wouldn’t have

Mr. Scoobs

11/18/19 12:40pm

Agreed, Looking at the big picture, jury is still out on Kalani

Reedme

11/18/19 4:20pm

Any decent program would have fired him after the USF game. His 4 year record

777

11/18/19 12:45pm

this is laughable. any decent program?

idacoug

11/18/19 12:59pm

Correct. The decent ones expect better than hovering at .500 over the

777

11/18/19 1:05pm

I don't agree with all the complaints about KS, but just looking at records it's

Ash

11/18/19 4:28pm

I agree if you can’t be happy about things like bowl games beating Boise usc

franklyvulgar

11/18/19 12:45pm

I'm on the fence about the extension

BYUMizzou

11/18/19 12:47pm

Can't and won't argue any of those points. Ive been on the #FireKalani at points

SLIVER

11/18/19 1:58pm

Undisputably true. Excellence is over. If this is what we wanted, why fire BM?

11/18/19 2:41pm

We didn't fire him. He left. And we haven't had "excellence" in 35 years, it's

molodyets

11/18/19 3:03pm

I think you have your facts wrong

Backcountry

11/18/19 3:57pm

Would you not extend even if we go 9-4 this season?

Bostonblue

11/18/19 3:09pm

I would say yes. This is what BYU is telling you

gurt

11/18/19 3:48pm

Most commercial airplanes cannot safely fly at that altitude, can they?

wiffleboy

11/18/19 3:50pm

Weird how some people dont love beating USC, UW, UT, BSU.

Backcountry

11/18/19 3:54pm

It’s not a “high” if we don’t finish strong—we are ranked 49 and we’ve averaged

Mr. Scoobs

11/18/19 4:18pm

He will literally never have a winning record against his rival

Gathers

11/18/19 4:44pm

The powers that be need to step up then

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 4:53pm

I don't think you can lay 9 losses in a row primarily on the BoT.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/18/19 7:48pm

Reading fail

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 8:37pm

Bronco trended the same way. Remember he was 0-5 the last five years

D.T. Survivor

11/18/19 5:08pm

Urban Meyer and Nick Saban couldnt coach a BYU program to regular wins against

Backcountry

11/18/19 5:45pm

I totally disagree. Absolutely disagree.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/18/19 7:49pm

1. This is the toughest schedule I have seen in a long time, so your point is

troymac32

11/18/19 5:27pm

The schedule has been tougher than average but by time we play 67 SDSU and

kooogar

11/18/19 8:17pm

Oh go cheer for the nuggets

LakeshowCougs

11/18/19 5:35pm

Too far!

CrimsonCardinal

12/2/19 3:09pm

I agree with the author. 26 w and 23 losses equals a contract extension? Nuts!

cougarforeverII

11/18/19 5:54pm

Ciao kimdaddy.

Elvis

11/18/19 6:31pm

I'll be fine with firing him when players start causing off field crime.

Rat

11/18/19 6:35pm

Crouton had harder schedules? Smoke crack much?

lilpenny

11/18/19 6:48pm

Kalani has a better record than LaVell after 4 seasons

70'sCougar

11/18/19 6:49pm

You cannot compare Kalani’s/BYU’s years as an Indy

UNHuskerCoug

11/18/19 7:00pm

whoops you are suffering from name-brand bias. The computer numbers say Crowtons

cwilke1

12/1/19 10:57am

No they don't.

Blue Cat

12/2/19 2:47pm

Indy has hurt recruiting not kalani

Baseball77

11/18/19 8:30pm

So true bronco also recruited worse as Indy

franklyvulgar

11/18/19 8:44pm

You think Crowton had tougher schedules?

ochobeeguy

11/18/19 8:46pm

I would agree with you but are there any better LDS coaches who would take the

CaliforniaCougar22

11/18/19 8:54pm

RE: This will not be a popular opinion on this board, but taking a 50,000 foot

RiseCougars

11/18/19 9:13pm

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