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In GIF form, some things I've learned from 2024 offseason...

cougarmeister

1:32pm

People seem to think they can buy anything with money.

BYUJoJo

1:37pm

It's true. Bigute threw a lot of money at BYU but couldnt get in.

Longseason

1:39pm

RE: In GIF form, some things I've learned from 2024 offseason...

jvr7

1:38pm

RE: In GIF form, some things I've learned from 2024 offseason...

BlueFever

1:39pm

Andy Reid got paid.

Abe Froman

1:27pm

I'm sure there's a no buyout clause if offered the BYU job

thewaterboy

1:28pm

tough pill to swallow as an Eagles fan but I’m happy for him

Flyingdolphin

1:31pm

I wish I could have sympathy for ya man. But y'all ran him out on a rail.

Marc Spector

1:35pm

Bill used to get $20+MM?

JuicyJam

1:32pm

NIL money

Longseason

1:33pm

Good for him! he seems like a legit good dude

Zoobieman

1:34pm

And he's making good money on top of that in endorsements/commercials

Mexicougazul

1:36pm

In fairness, all tithing from former BYU guys should go directly to BYU's sports

JimmyZ

1:38pm

POLL: I'm still a bit confused. Should I be rooting for the Suns to

TailgateU

1:24pm

He already has the rep, so there's no need to finish the season.

BlueFever

1:28pm

No one remembers where you lost in the playoffs.

Kdubb

1:31pm

Pros and cons to either scenario.

BYUtka

1:34pm

Gurney saying Saunders article was removed from website:

Thrill

1:21pm

RE: Gurney saying Saunders article was removed from website:

jvr7

1:22pm

He read the NIL fine print which said it would be paid in Filipino pesos.

Yukon

1:23pm

RE: He read the NIL fine print which said it would be paid in Filipino pesos.

BoiseBlue

1:25pm

RE: Gurney saying Saunders article was removed from website:

SinkingQuffa

1:24pm

RE: Gurney saying Saunders article was removed from website:

fattycoug

1:26pm

I am waiting for McCann: Darn the torpedoes, this ship may be turning around

BYUheaven

1:26pm

Richie was never committed to UK

PumaFanatico

1:30pm

This is Gordon Hayward needing to get his Player's Tribune article out. Let the kid break his own news kind of thing

P-Boy Squad

1:30pm

This is the most likely scenario. He's probably going to KU but wants to put out his "with that being said..." insta

Adrielle

1:34pm

UK. KU is Kansas

Dangerous

1:36pm

...or a UK typo.

SinkingQuffa

1:38pm

Just pulled the trigger too early. They were supposed to wait until he announced and sent his BYU thank you

darkcoug

1:32pm

No, it's ALL Pope — just driving splinters under our fingernails!!! 😉

SinkingQuffa

1:36pm

This is confusing, but I don't have any "new" hope. I don't believe they

AF_Puma

1:34pm

Shades of Gordon Hayward on the Fourth of July.

Ham

1:36pm

Richie Saunders best offers out of HS.... is this accurate? If so, hard to be

777

1:17pm

I am super surprised, he was already at a really good school that made the NCAA tournament last year,

JOPE

1:19pm

Pope played him 20 mpg at BYU. With the recruits he should get at Kentucky, it

rivercitycoug

1:23pm

Next year on a completely newly assembled team, with his motor and effort?

Mitty

1:26pm

The first 3-4 games I bet Saunders starts. Experience will matter.

DawgHaus

1:28pm

We’ll see how it plays out. I’m sure the used car salesman sold him on big mins.

rivercitycoug

1:30pm

you need to change your perspective. Utah and BYU are now playing in the Big 12

Cougarclaw

1:28pm

I recall Creighton as being his best offer. And McDermott did fight hard to land him.

SinkingQuffa

1:31pm

While I’m not saying you’re wrong, I will say using someone’s HS offers isn’t

gww687

1:37pm

Where does Magic end up all time if he doesn’t retire early due to HIV?

PHXSUNS31

1:17pm

He’d have top 5 locked down by everyone for sure

Cougforgood

1:20pm

I think he’s got that locked down regardless

PHXSUNS31

1:24pm

Not universal consensus though

Cougforgood

1:25pm

Maybe not, but I think most would say he’s top 5…depending on how you count Wilt

PHXSUNS31

1:31pm

It's crazy to look at his season when he came back after 4 years off

BGRTHNUMEGO

1:21pm

Ya and some signs he would’ve been able to shoot 3s as well

PHXSUNS31

1:29pm

Likely cuts into MJ's GOATness by preventing 6 chips in 6 trips during the 90's.

d-coug

1:25pm

Ya I could see that. If Magic stole the 93 title…5 out of 6 just isn’t the same

PHXSUNS31

1:30pm

Just remember one thing Pope is the enemy now. He will do BYU no favors nor care

FT487

1:13pm

Short-term Pope is a problem but I give him 3 years max…

PortlandCoug

1:17pm

My hot take re: BYU’s success in 23-24 is that Khalifa was was underrated…

PortlandCoug

1:11pm

More important IMO is other teams underrated him. They got better at end defending his passes.

Soupie

1:13pm

Sorry, but I think Khalifa was better than we expected, but now is way overrated.

Pollster

1:14pm

Khalifa's impact was huge but by mid-Big 12 play, teams had figured him out

RenoCoug

1:14pm

He was awful on defense the last 3 weeks. Injuries really hurt him

Charles Darwin

1:15pm

And attacked him on the PnR relentlessly

BYUheaven

1:16pm

THIS - Future Louisville opponents have plenty of film on how to minimize AK's

BoiseBlueCoug

1:16pm

You're not right. Physically he was wearing down, but defenses hadn't figured

stansburycoug

1:27pm

Dont totally agree. We were already blowing out lower level

LifeLongLakerFan

1:19pm

BYU’s success was because they had a very good coach, a roster full of

Goatnapper'96

1:38pm

I don't wish ill will upon any coaches or players that left or transferred.

DB Cooper

1:11pm

My thoughts exactly.

LifeLongLakerFan

1:22pm

Many fans consider Golden Richards a BYU player

MadHawaiian

1:26pm

BYU now in 3rd, 8 shots back…the Jones’s and Kim playing well

JOPE Resident Golf Fanatic

1:09pm

Big back 9 collapse. Now 4th.

Bluforever

1:26pm

Oi, Koz and Richie news is offsetting!! I want more good news! More!

Preppy All-American

1:08pm

Saunders is a much bigger loss than Koz is a gain. No offense.

dYrtbYkerYder

1:09pm

You can't really know that yet

WJCougar

1:11pm

For next year's team, almost 100% certain. After that, you are right.

Mitty

1:18pm

In the immediate future (next year for sure), I agree. TBD beyond that.

BYUHawk

1:14pm

Our near-term future as a program took a hit this month in an inescapable way.

d-coug

1:17pm

Right now, Saunders a bigger loss, yes. 2 yrs from now? Koz has more upside.

DawgHaus

1:15pm

This season, probably. But beyond — I'm not so sure about that.

SinkingQuffa

1:22pm

For next year, yes. Long-term, still TBD

LifeLongLakerFan

1:23pm

With NIL it’s hard for me to blame players for leaving…

PortlandCoug

1:08pm

True, too much hand wringing the players when it's the system that creates it.

777

1:09pm

Do we know what NIL amount Saunders is getting?

WJCougar

1:12pm

It's the open transfer portal that is the real culprit. It magnifies the

LifeLongLakerFan

1:25pm

CB: "No way we'll be competing with Pope's UK teams for LDS recruits."

Mitty

1:05pm

Was my biggest concern and I was told no way but here we are.

CougLyfe

1:06pm

If he gets to the point of recruiting the type of recruit UK historically gets,

Adam_Pontipee

1:06pm

It may not matter long term but it will still be disruptive to BYU for years so

hardcorecoug

1:09pm

Years? Pope doesn't have years to rely on LDS recruits.

Adam_Pontipee

1:09pm

In your scenario where he won’t last long by relying on BYU type recruits it

hardcorecoug

1:11pm

I guess it depends on what you mean by several...2-3 max if he copy/pastes the

Adam_Pontipee

1:13pm

I think most people are talking down the line in 1-2 years.

BYUHawk

1:07pm

This. Chandler was a big recruit who could have been a UK guy from the beginning

LeonMarek

1:08pm

So 1 of 2 would be someone Pope could traditionally steal…

ochobeeguy

1:12pm

Yep....if Pope is relying on LDS recruits in 2 years he is doing it wrong

WJCougar

1:08pm

I struggle to understand the logic "If Pope is grabbing a 4/5* LDS recruit once

Mitty

1:16pm

He will still try to take the Chandlers, etc from us. That is a big deal.

BYUCLA

1:18pm

Guarantee triple stamp as long as Pope is there, some top LDS kids will be

Mitty

1:22pm

What a time to be a top LDS basketball recruit

PumaFanatico

1:27pm

You got it man, it's us head to head with Kentucky

Born2Fish

1:08pm

It's a one year thing. No big deal after the first wave.

dYrtbYkerYder

1:08pm

One year to flatten the curve

hardcorecoug

1:10pm

Yeah because every year Pope will have former players to recruit from us.

A Drew Aitch

1:09pm

That is who Pope is currently familiar with. Give it 3 years...

BYUtka

1:16pm

how many LDS recruits per year are even the top ones that have NBA potential? Pope will be focusing on

Flyingdolphin

1:21pm

Looks like Kentucky needs to rebrand to include a block Y at the end.

Malcolm Reynolds

1:03pm

As long as it's the tan version in your post they can have it.

cougarfan84

1:10pm

No, RICHIE!!!

JimmyZ

1:02pm

Pretty good segment on Zach

letthewookieewin Walking Carpet

12:59pm

Chris Sims has always been pretty fair to Zach.

dYrtbYkerYder

1:10pm

Noah Waterman is officially fan favorite #1. Hope he crushes it this year!

cougarfanatic All-American

12:59pm

Why did the Louisville Courier remove the article that everyone is referring to

AF Cougar

12:59pm

Probably to let him announce it first.

mokelembembe

1:03pm

Drat. It's a done deal then. I was hoping against hope.

DawgHaus

1:10pm

These players have no concept of what prestige can do for you.

The Y's Insider

12:57pm

Like you say, no idea how big the effect is, but agree it's way under-weighted

Mitty

1:01pm

College players were never making this kind of $$

braddahmike

1:06pm

Ive been told and I tell people in my field (medicine/radiology)

DanSmith

1:07pm

List of potential transfers. Richie at 11 & Hall at 17.

Soupie Grandma Sycamore

12:57pm

I loved Richie, but Hall would be a bigger loss.

BYUHawk

1:04pm

Based on needs, totally.

Soupie

1:06pm

Richie wasn't highly rated until it became public that UK wanted him. Recruiting

Charles Darwin

1:11pm

So much politicking.

Soupie

1:14pm

He was the 27th rated offensive player last year in the NCAA

JOPE

1:14pm

This is definitely not true.

wjman11

1:28pm

#194

Charles Darwin

1:35pm

The EvanMiya metric specifically has always been really high on Richie.

PumaFanatico

1:40pm

And EvanMiya is completely based on stats

PumaFanatico

1:41pm

Watching baseball series vs OU. Each time one of our batters has two strikes, he looks at our dugout and puts the Y

stev All-American

12:57pm

No, I have no idea what Y handing means.

StantonMac

12:59pm

Team before individual is my guess.

BYU71

1:12pm

I kind of hate Mark Pope now, I don't see why any BYU fan would hope he does well at Kentucky

Nuke All-American

12:55pm

So, Saunders not attending the press conference was a sign that he was leaving. Does that mean Hall being at the

Adrielle Board Misanthrope

12:53pm

Hope so. Richie was in team mtg though.

Soupie

12:54pm

No, I don't think it was a sign that he was leaving.

Belboz

12:55pm

It certainly isn't a bad sign.... Although he was distinctly not in BYU gear.

BYUtka

12:56pm

Brown Khaki's and a plain white shirt was about as close to BYU gear as one can

777

1:05pm

I was wondering the same thing. So far, those that immediately went to the

AF_Puma

1:02pm

I'm guessing at that point last week both were still exploring their options.

BYUHawk

1:05pm

Richie was at the team meeting and couldn’t go to press conference because he

PumaFanatico

1:37pm

The used car salesman clearly made a lot of promises to a guy 7th off his bench

rivercitycoug

12:49pm

He is now the 6th man....

ordinary tri guy

12:57pm

I seriously hope Pope stubs his toe on the corner wall and it hurts like a

ordinary tri guy

12:48pm

To all who have left or yet to leave for Kentucky

Preppy All-American

12:46pm

May the fleas of 1000 camels infest your jock straps.

cougarmeister

12:47pm

May you pour milk on a bowl of your favorite cereal only to discover that it is fast Sunday!

PJMort

12:49pm

RE: May you pour milk on a bowl of your favorite cereal only to discover that it is fast Sunday!

RootieBoy

12:51pm

sheesh man...tone it down a bit. thats ruthless

LeonMarek

12:54pm

RE: May you pour milk on a bowl of your favorite cereal only to discover that it

maxpowers

12:59pm

Or *Ramadan*

Japan Coug

1:13pm

RE: To all who have left or yet to leave for Kentucky

TheLoneCougar

12:47pm

RE: Saunders to Kentucky.

Ham

12:45pm

He might play a few minutes for them in garbage time…

Pretorian

12:48pm

Wonder if we will ever see a former player transfer back to BYU after 1-2 years.

VirginiaPeanut

12:41pm

Jake Toolson did

jg94

12:42pm

Yep, question answered. How about that

palangi

12:45pm

Different sport, but Dylan Collie did too.

Bossk82

12:51pm

The transfer portal and free agency are young. Happens in the pros. I could see it happen in the future

JimmerEatWorld

12:44pm

It kind of feels like that just happened with Koz.

PJMort

12:47pm

That’s why nobody should burn any bridges .

Islandercoug

12:47pm

I'd take Lohner back

BYUFootballisBack

12:50pm

me too!

byuwahoo

12:51pm

Pass

Dangerous

12:55pm

Why? So defenses can ignore him completely and cramp our offensive spacing?

ldssdl

1:14pm

Nope. He’s not good.

wjman11

1:29pm

Real question is will KY even want Richie at that point

Heath Squashwell

12:51pm

Is it faster for me to get a check from a financial institution tomorrow, then

Iman23

12:40pm

If it is a sizeable check and it’s not a cashiers check, they might put a hold on the funds. If you are getting the

specsauce

12:44pm

Agreed, I’d do EFT for that exact reason

HungryCoug

12:45pm

As an aside, remember that crooks have been hacking title companies and stealing buyer's down payments, so be extremely

Smack'sWife

1:12pm

Which former player most quickly got their groove back post Mish? Haws?

Blueto

12:39pm

nick emery

LeonMarek

12:41pm

Seems like Kyle Collinsworth was ready to go

Super Chicken

12:41pm

Kyle Collinsworth

LakeshowCougs

12:41pm

Probably Michael Smith

Belboz

12:42pm

Tyler Haws and Mika both averaged 20+ straight off a mission. Hard to beat that.

mokelembembe

12:43pm

Not Tanner Mangum…

Pretorian

12:49pm

Top 10 recent

Spencer Linton just said that the roster is almost full for next year according

Good stuff from KC.

Not that anyone is keeping track, but

KY contract overstated by the media, not $30mm

KY swinging for fences (to mix sports) in portal.

Gurney saying Saunders article was removed from website:

Great article on KY dropping bombs...

POLL: Honest assessment: Chandler v Kozlowski

4* JJ Mandaquit- I was super excited when I saw Brody’s commitment post.

People dismissed Kozlowski pretty quickly when he committed to USC

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