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Feb 24, 2020
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It's time for BYU to become a basketball school

mjmill

2/24/20 12:35pm

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

CObluezone

2/24/20 12:36pm

State your case....make it convincing

CLCougar

2/24/20 12:40pm

Because Football is infinitely more exciting to watch and more people care about

CObluezone

2/24/20 12:48pm

Oh yes, all those excited people watching BYU lose to Toledo. Exciting!

TheWanderer

2/24/20 12:53pm

You are fixated on one game??? How about the win vs USC and Boise? Plus, I am

CObluezone

2/24/20 1:03pm

Is football more viewed? Yes. But no one gives a flying hoot about *BYU* in FB.

TheWanderer

2/24/20 1:13pm

Are you saying people give a hoot about BYU Basketball? Really?

CObluezone

2/24/20 1:23pm

Well, they are #17 right now, so....some people have noticed us.

TheWanderer

2/24/20 1:29pm

And when we are ranked in football, people will pay attention to us too. Like

CObluezone

2/24/20 1:37pm

Ouch, man. That hurt. I took my 3 oldest on a fan recruiting trip, complete with

TailgateU

2/24/20 1:33pm

“Infinitely?” Not even close.

Brisco

2/24/20 1:38pm

I just don't see the "7-6, with L to USF and Toledo" model being sustainable.

TheWanderer

2/24/20 12:40pm

YES. And to add to your list: there are A LOT more elite basketball

macdizzle

2/24/20 12:37pm

Sad but tru

Jimmertime

2/24/20 12:37pm

I don't think there are more, but in bball it only takes 2 or 3 elite LDS kids

cougarmeister

2/24/20 4:39pm

I think both are true. You make a good point.

macdizzle

2/24/20 5:05pm

BYU has a long football tradition. But how far can KS carry that?

TheWanderer

2/24/20 12:38pm

How far has he carried it so far?

Ash

2/24/20 5:09pm

Back to a pre LaVell crappiness in 2016.

TheWanderer

2/24/20 7:49pm

has been for a decade.

ag4cougs

2/24/20 12:38pm

You all know it’s ok to try to be good at multiple sports, right?

raines31

2/24/20 12:38pm

That’s kind of the point. It is pretty much impossible if not in a p5 conference

BYUheaven

2/24/20 12:41pm

Something VERY few school do. The list is short Michigan, UF, Ohio State,...

TheWanderer

2/24/20 12:42pm

This 2015 list demonstrates such.

TheWanderer

2/24/20 12:48pm

Just 5 schools to do it. Impressive on them.

TailgateU

2/24/20 1:49pm

Thank you

ColonelMustard

2/24/20 5:11pm

What's with all the false dichotomy posts today? Let's be both.....as well as v-ball, x-country, track, etc.

SingleStrapBackpack

2/24/20 12:39pm

I'm a passionate BYU football fan. I'm not saying we give up on football.

mjmill

2/24/20 12:41pm

In a resource limited environment it's a tug of war. Both might not be feasible

TheWanderer

2/24/20 12:44pm

Maybe, but recruiting trips to Africa etc suggest he is being given the support

raines31

2/24/20 12:49pm

Picture if we weren't sinking $1M+ into a floundering FB coach.

TheWanderer

2/24/20 12:58pm

RE: It's time for BYU to become a basketball school

IndepYndent

2/24/20 12:41pm

RE: It's time for BYU to become a basketball school

LiveCoug

2/24/20 12:41pm

RE: It's time for BYU to become a basketball school

groy

2/24/20 12:41pm

Hack! 🙂

LiveCoug

2/24/20 12:42pm

RE: Hack! 🙂

groy

2/24/20 12:44pm

I think college basketball certainly provides the illusion that it's not as "rigged" as college football

TCuz

2/24/20 12:57pm

When was the last time a small school was close to winning the BCS or CFP?

Doogal McCougar

2/24/20 1:02pm

Virginia is not and is the exception I noted.

TCuz

2/24/20 1:09pm

This is a valid thought. The NC still is pretty much a blue blood thing.

TheWanderer

2/24/20 1:19pm

The big thing for me is the ability to get to the Sweet 16, Elite 8 level.

TheWanderer

2/24/20 1:07pm

at least the reason you're not in the final in CBB is because you lost a game

lukeskywalker

2/24/20 3:16pm

. . . AND a football school!!

squidmark

2/24/20 1:00pm

Before Lavell, Brigham WAS a basketball school

Sacto Cougar

2/24/20 1:04pm

This is correct. BYU won the NIT when it was the more prestigious tournament vs the NCAA.

Tarbo

2/24/20 1:43pm

That’s debatable. It was a transitioning time between the two tournaments

ColonelMustard

2/24/20 5:14pm

If we want to continue to operate in the black (and not red)

stoils

2/24/20 1:09pm

Serious question: How does Villanova, Dayton, Xavier, etc do it?

TheWanderer

2/24/20 1:16pm

There are only ~25 universities that make money

stoils

2/24/20 1:22pm

These are private schools without state support. Do donors cover the losses?

TheWanderer

2/24/20 1:27pm

I just would like to thank Kalani for all these types of posts coming up now. Didn't have to be this way

Bob Vance

2/24/20 1:11pm

It's time for us to become both

kahuna

2/24/20 1:26pm

RE: It's time for us to become both

blue13

2/24/20 4:03pm

All valid points except for the overarching premise that football be 2nd.

pegushin

2/24/20 1:32pm

Never said we should give up on football or that football isn't king

mjmill

2/24/20 2:30pm

The problem we have is a limited pool of donors that overlap & would believe tha

pegushin

2/24/20 5:04pm

We have a built-in facilities advantage with sattelite gyms behind every chapel.

TailgateU

2/24/20 1:47pm

as exciting as being a basketball powerhouse would be

HeismanTy

2/24/20 2:30pm

We are

YIsForBrigham

2/24/20 2:33pm

It was a basketball school until LaVell. Averaged 3 wins per season.

oldrugger

2/24/20 3:43pm

I don't think funding our bball program will necessarily get us better recruits.

Hill4Heisman

2/24/20 3:48pm

We can be both

Traveling Coug

2/24/20 4:16pm

🤣🤣 Never said ignore or give up on football

mjmill

2/24/20 4:23pm

Agreed. While still rebuilding back to a football school.

Santos L. Halper

2/24/20 4:34pm

Ive been saying this for sometime now, and I am a huge BYU football fan.

idacoug

2/24/20 4:41pm

3-4 years ago I would have disagreed vehemently. Our football suckitude has

doups3

2/24/20 5:04pm

This is very true. Sadly.

Von Cougarschnauzer

2/24/20 6:23pm

The day you can fill LaVell Edwards Stadium to watch a BYU basketball game...

Kuga

2/24/20 10:24pm

A school can still have football, but be a basketball school.

TheWanderer

2/24/20 10:41pm

Basketball success and football success are not mutually exclusive

Doogal McCougar

2/25/20 8:30am

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