Italy's is still bad but WAY inflated. Every expert agrees. And that's even with

Mar 16, 2020
3:46:54pm

CSoul Intervention Needed

Italy having not only the worst social and demographic setup for this but their healthcare system is maybe the worst in the "1st world".

sciencedirect

Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)

In recent years, Italy has been registering peaks in death rates, particularly among the elderly during the winter season. Influenza epidemics have be…

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

The New York Times

Coronavirus Is Hiding in Plain Sight

For every known case of coronavirus, another five to 10 cases are out there undetected, a new study suggests.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/health/coronavirus-statistics-undetected.html

Read those two things and get back to me.

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:29pm

100's of millions?

TerribleOpinionsGuy

3/16/20 3:30pm

There are lots of terrible opinions that you'll see here

coolcats

3/16/20 3:31pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:36pm

so, let's see here ... we've now equated flu with spanish flu, doubled the # of

Checks Out

3/16/20 3:39pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:55pm

ok, thanks so much for helping me with my google fingers ... I finally figured

Checks Out

3/16/20 3:57pm

Boardname doesn’t check out

puntersarepeople

3/16/20 8:08pm

or possibly you don't get jokes / sarcasm

Checks Out

3/17/20 9:33am

Did you change it just for this thread?

puntersarepeople

3/18/20 11:42am

Uhhh, Spanish Flu killed 20 to 50 million according to my Google machine

GangstaLean

3/16/20 7:32pm

Has a disease infected everyone in the world? Ever?

fattycoug

3/16/20 4:46pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 5:08pm

you didn't first present it as a thought experiment

fattycoug

3/16/20 5:11pm

But his numbers do almost match some of the projections

dratax

3/16/20 5:35pm

His numbers say that everyone in the world will get it and 3% will die?

fattycoug

3/16/20 5:43pm

That is what I get from reading too fast

dratax

3/16/20 7:11pm

3% is not the true fatality rate. Think of the damage that economy takes

Duke Silver

3/16/20 3:33pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:39pm

Not that I agree with all of the extremes, but who do you

ALC

3/16/20 6:50pm

Spanish Flu had 50 million deaths when population was 1/3 of current (1.8 B)

Pistol Shrimp

3/16/20 3:36pm

lol

johnnycarson

3/16/20 3:36pm

Wow, just wow. smh

Checks Out

3/16/20 3:37pm

Risk vs reward

gurt

3/16/20 3:37pm

Um... I mean, are you doing ok?

Coug

3/16/20 3:38pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:43pm

I do 🙋🏻‍♂️😁❗️

gurt

3/16/20 3:45pm

I haven’t seen any of them talk about every person on earth

The Dude Abides

3/16/20 3:47pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:48pm

In 1918.

The Dude Abides

3/16/20 3:49pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:53pm

you can keep saying it killed 100 million as often as you want, but it won't

Checks Out

3/16/20 3:53pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:57pm

oh, so you didn't really want to use a real estimate or google anything

Checks Out

3/16/20 4:01pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 4:04pm

The WHO, really?

kbufcoug

3/16/20 5:47pm

Liberal crowd didn’t like it when I said this

puntersarepeople

3/16/20 8:14pm

Ok, why didn’t we have this craziness during the pandemic (swine flu)

Chazz Reinhold

3/16/20 10:10pm

Not quite accurate. We reacted much faster with H1N1...

So it goes...

3/16/20 10:20pm

The reaction is world wide. Indicating to me that it is not politics

dratax

3/18/20 12:28pm

3% is a fallacy. The actual cases are severely underreported

BIG XII Coug

3/16/20 3:38pm

Go back to eating Cougar Tails

Cougar TD

3/16/20 3:38pm

RE: Would you call saving 234,000,000 lives an overreaction?

TerribleOpinionsGuy

3/16/20 3:39pm

Virtue signaling at its finest.

Benfica1

3/16/20 3:40pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:52pm

Link to the epidemiologists who said 234 million deaths?

The Dude Abides

3/16/20 3:53pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 4:02pm

75 million people aren’t going to die and wouldn’t die even if 1/3

The Dude Abides

3/16/20 4:16pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 4:20pm

Yes, but you incorrectly equate an alternative plan with doing nothing

cruoti

3/16/20 4:47pm

Youd did a poor job. you don't convince people that it's not an overreaction by

fattycoug

3/16/20 4:51pm

if it would never be the case the why are you offended when people call you out

fattycoug

3/16/20 4:49pm

Right. It’s like asking “If sharks grew legs and walked

The Dude Abides

3/16/20 4:53pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 5:16pm

1) no one is saying "do nothing". They just are worrying about what is done

fattycoug

3/16/20 5:48pm

You’re making up your own numbers not providing numbers from epidemiologists

mobius

3/16/20 4:18pm

You’re not listening either, Mr. Medical. Worst case scenario is in the 10s

Refugee

3/16/20 6:54pm

Flattening the curve does not remove the curve

Styro

3/16/20 3:40pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 3:44pm

Italy's is still bad but WAY inflated. Every expert agrees. And that's even with

CSoul

3/16/20 3:46pm

Oh, and SK is inflated too. I would guess we end at a true death rate of less

CSoul

3/16/20 3:47pm

what?!? Uhhh, if we slow the spread, it does save lives. Why do people say

Checks Out

3/16/20 3:55pm

He didn't say it wouldn't save lives. He said that it wouldn't save $234mm lives. That's the assertion the OP laughably

Pimpin4Paradise

3/16/20 3:57pm

I'm fairly certain he actually did say that and then edited

Checks Out

3/16/20 3:59pm

The only person who edited his post is you — as it shows when you look at someone's post.

SierraCoug

3/16/20 4:13pm

awesome ... I edited mine from a header only to put in details

Checks Out

3/16/20 4:20pm

I'm glad you changed your boardname. This definitely fits you better.

Pimpin4Paradise

3/16/20 3:43pm

Do they really know that it is more contagious than the flu? It might be, but

Zinger

3/16/20 4:13pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 4:22pm

At this point everyone is guessing. The R0 has come down significantly in the

Zinger

3/16/20 4:43pm

Part of the issue is that most (if not all) CBers don't know anyone who's been

Machiavelli

3/16/20 4:14pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 4:25pm

I hope I'm one of the 60,000

kbufcoug

3/16/20 6:04pm

Well, I probably know people who have been infected and aren't aware yet

Northwest Cougar

3/16/20 4:40pm

Again - it's not a real threat until people in your circle start to get sick

Machiavelli

3/16/20 4:56pm

Yes, but for 235M I think it would be appropriate

kiyoshige

3/16/20 4:23pm

I mean, China has had over 3000 deaths, so your numbers sounds right to me.

OPINIONS

3/16/20 4:49pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 5:18pm

So thousands of people were infected without access to hospital beds...

Byron McNertney

3/16/20 5:21pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 5:32pm

The problem with these calculations

lilpenny

3/16/20 5:25pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 5:33pm

Say What?

kbufcoug

3/16/20 6:09pm

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CougarTailDevourer

3/16/20 6:43pm

Then there's the rest of us who think this is all an overreaction...by everyone.

TrueBlue67

3/16/20 8:47pm

eat another cougar tail and chill bro.

Str8CashCougar

3/16/20 8:54pm

No. Bad opinion.

Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)

Coronavirus Is Hiding in Plain Sight

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