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Apr 15, 2020
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El Fuego
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I know a first responder in Nevada. He says nearly every person they respond to
gwalker
4/15/20 3:20pm
It’s the justification for ruining livelihoods.
Adwight
4/15/20 3:22pm
That’s it. Of course.
StalwartBraveTrue
4/15/20 4:32pm
No one wants to ruin livelihoods.
rockyrd
4/15/20 6:34pm
But some don't care if they do. Not enough, anyway
fattycoug
4/15/20 6:34pm
A few may even see it as an opportunity to forward an agenda of more govt sponsored dependence.
Soupie
4/15/20 6:40pm
Wanna bet? By any means necessary. It is a motto not a saying.
ImuaKahuku
4/15/20 6:40pm
Do states get reimbursed for COVD 19 DEATHS.
BYU71
4/15/20 3:22pm
I don't know. I think many people think they will get some form of monetary
gwalker
4/15/20 3:23pm
Yes they do.
DJROSS
4/15/20 3:33pm
Link?
Champ Kind
4/15/20 3:46pm
They all have disaster declarations in place. The more deaths the more hardship
mudpupper
4/15/20 4:27pm
Yep Cuomo was complaining about getting 12000 per fatality when states like
DJROSS
4/15/20 4:40pm
You know who you should trust that knows this stuff?
Medute
4/15/20 3:23pm
I wonder why he thinks that's the case.
gwalker
4/15/20 3:24pm
Serious question. Does your friend have strong feelings about this stuff?
Medute
4/15/20 3:26pm
I actually don’t know much about how he feels about the situation other than
gwalker
4/15/20 3:28pm
RE: Serious question. Does your friend have strong feelings about this stuff?
WJCougar
4/15/20 3:35pm
You're saying first responders don't have conversations with ER doctors?
ochobeeguy
4/15/20 5:12pm
hearsay
Tokolosh
4/15/20 3:28pm
Could be.
gwalker
4/15/20 3:30pm
Because it falls in line with his political beliefs.
shimmy
4/15/20 3:41pm
I know how you feel about it G man.. are you sure your own feelings
byukarl
4/15/20 4:02pm
I’ve said in this thread maybe I believed what he said without being as critical
gwalker
4/15/20 4:25pm
He heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another
Pro Logic
4/15/20 3:38pm
RE: He heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from
El Fuego
4/15/20 3:43pm
Yup....that is complete BS. Paramedics and first responders have no idea what is listed as the cause of death.
Virginia Ute
4/15/20 3:48pm
Yes but even Dr. Deborah Birx has said that they typically count people who die
JmThms
4/15/20 4:09pm
What if I told you they do the same thing for the flu?
doktorpfeffer
4/15/20 6:39pm
I understand the relative comparison. But people are focusing on the COVID
JmThms
4/15/20 6:44pm
You have a good point, On the other hand there is financial incentive to
Blue2thebone
4/15/20 9:34pm
I don’t disagree. But we shouldn’t spread false information
Medute
4/15/20 9:40pm
My BIL in the Phoenix area has told me it's the same thing there
wabluecoug
4/15/20 3:23pm
Is he a first responder too? If so, Thank him for his service but
StalwartBraveTrue
4/15/20 4:36pm
Follow the money.
777
4/15/20 3:23pm
Yep. Hospitals get more money the more covid-related deaths they report
maxpowers
4/15/20 3:50pm
Really? Where? I have two brothers and multiple friends that are first
acougfan
4/15/20 3:24pm
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rivercitycoug
4/15/20 3:25pm
It’s true.
Gerald-DeGroot
4/15/20 3:28pm
It is because hospitals will receive incentive money and they do not want deaths
cornellcoug
4/15/20 3:30pm
It’s the way they make the numbers ‘work’ CDC has already
kotacoug
4/15/20 3:44pm
Link?
Champ Kind
4/15/20 3:47pm
Google it.
kotacoug
4/15/20 5:16pm
Even though pretty much 5% of all people tested are positive.
ochobeeguy
4/15/20 5:14pm
They did autopsy that showed the virus causes clotting in the lungs and in
tawillin
4/15/20 3:45pm
Also possible.
gwalker
4/15/20 3:47pm
Yeah, but even in people our health care profession suspect have covid-19 due
Coach's Dad
4/15/20 3:52pm
How could he possibly know that?
Josef K
4/15/20 3:49pm
Facebook
El Fuego
4/15/20 3:50pm
I've already answered this question a couple of times. I don't know. I didn't
gwalker
4/15/20 3:53pm
what incentives do counties have to make this stuff up?
Josef K
4/15/20 3:57pm
Again. I don’t know. It isn’t hard to think the Feds will send out relief
gwalker
4/15/20 4:00pm
Thanks. i really enjoy your posts and your POV. I don't mean to be
Josef K
4/15/20 7:24pm
First responders would need to be notified if they were in contact with someone
ochobeeguy
4/15/20 5:16pm
That would be a surprise. Nevada has had only about 100 deaths
jkccoug
4/15/20 4:20pm
131, I guess.
jkccoug
4/15/20 4:23pm
Seems close to "about 100"
fattycoug
4/15/20 6:35pm
Sounds legit
coolcats
4/15/20 4:22pm
RE: Sounds legit
gwalker
4/15/20 4:31pm
Hopefully this post teaches us all something. Not everything we’d like to
StalwartBraveTrue
4/15/20 4:43pm
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, first responders are not the best source on this
Dwight89
4/15/20 5:07pm
RE: I'm sorry to burst your bubble, first responders are not the best source on
gwalker
4/15/20 5:11pm
Because first responders do the autopsies
Sumguy
4/15/20 5:11pm
RE: Because first responders do the autopsies
gwalker
4/15/20 5:12pm
More than one person can be right at a time
Sumguy
4/15/20 5:18pm
The point is you hacked. If you had bothered to read the thread you'd see
gwalker
4/15/20 5:19pm
RE: The point is you hacked. If you had bothered to read the thread you'd see
Sumguy
4/15/20 6:17pm
For what it’s worth I’ve heard similar reports but nothing first hand. One of
bigbossbyu
4/15/20 5:14pm
And only four hospitalizations (and I am told from a solid source that I
gwalker
4/15/20 5:17pm
Interesting. Kinda crazy people would freak out enough to call an ambulance.
bigbossbyu
4/15/20 5:20pm
Not calling your source wrong. Just bizarre how nothing adds up anywhere and
bigbossbyu
4/15/20 5:21pm
Agreed. Others make a good point about the death certificate.
gwalker
4/15/20 5:23pm
$13,000 from Medicaid per Covid patient, $39,000 if put on a ventilator.
EtTuKalante
4/15/20 5:20pm
Honestly people. The hospital is getting paid if it’s covid or not.
StalwartBraveTrue
4/15/20 8:28pm
*Hasn't read the CARES Act.
EtTuKalante
4/15/20 8:34pm
Probably happening in ID, too. Nez Perce County has 10 COVID-19 deaths
CougarThug
4/15/20 5:37pm
Why are so many on CB accepting the word of those not in a position to know?
Oatmeal
4/15/20 6:55pm
Yes. The CDC requires that COVID-19 be included on death certificates.
bigjohn
4/15/20 7:18pm
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