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May 27, 2020
1:22:59pm

Abe Froman Intervention Needed

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Abe Froman

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Alright, who's been cooking their books?

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

5/27/20 9:35am

Scanned percentage, per WSJ:

Gustav

5/27/20 9:37am

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Abe Froman

5/27/20 10:27am

Wow. Utah and Clemson grossly overestimating less than others.

cougsareforreal

5/27/20 10:39am

Utah has the 80th highest scanned percentage of 96 teams reporting.

Scratch

5/27/20 10:47am

BYU only reports actual attendance

Gustav

5/27/20 10:55am

HA! That's hilarious. What is this based on? Can you support that claim?

Scratch

5/27/20 11:05am

It's well known that BYU takes that approach

Gustav

5/27/20 11:44am

Not a chance.

Scratch

5/27/20 12:06pm

I assure you, it is BYU's approach

Gustav

5/27/20 12:09pm

It's not. Period. It's completely insane to argue otherwise when the Daily

Scratch

5/27/20 12:14pm

Right, because BYU is known for doing everything the same way as others . . .

Gustav

5/27/20 12:40pm

BYU tries to make itself look as good as possible. Just like other schools.

Scratch

5/27/20 12:49pm

BYU comes by it's good looks naturally. Silly Ute.

PJMort

5/27/20 12:53pm

BYU has never been that concerned with looking good

Gustav

5/27/20 1:04pm

LOL. Sure it does, certainly when it doesn't play into religious issues. And

Scratch

5/27/20 1:10pm

Again, do you believe that BYU, with some crappy start times, bad weather, and

Scratch

5/27/20 1:16pm

Most things are different at BYU

Gustav

5/27/20 1:26pm

As evidenced by all of the people on this board, who are generally pretty

Scratch

5/27/20 1:41pm

So do you want to hear something amazing? I went back and looked at a couple of

Scratch

5/27/20 3:36pm

Let’s see the articles.

pilot17

5/27/20 12:45pm

RE: Let’s see the articles.

displacedute

5/27/20 12:54pm

That's speaking of "schools" generally

Gustav

5/27/20 1:03pm

No...I do know that BYU does report actual attendance. They may also report

boogers

5/27/20 2:04pm

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Abe Froman

5/27/20 11:05am

BYU reports the same way. Everyone does. No one reports tickets scanned.

Scratch

5/27/20 11:06am

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Abe Froman

5/27/20 1:22pm

It's not cooking the books to report tickets sold. That's just how it's done.

Scratch

5/27/20 1:29pm

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Abe Froman

5/27/20 2:44pm

Probably, considering Utah is in the 83rd percentile nationally for public

Scratch

5/27/20 2:52pm

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Abe Froman

5/27/20 6:33pm

I never said I knew how big the difference is for BYU between tickets sold and

Scratch

5/27/20 7:00pm

and now for the rest of the story ... how many actual fans does each represent?

ManicBlue

5/27/20 11:11am

*crickets

ManicBlue

5/27/20 1:45pm

Sorry, I didn't respond to your unintelligible question.

Scratch

5/27/20 1:52pm

or you just can't do the math? Forgot you are a ute.

ManicBlue

5/27/20 1:57pm

I'd be happy to do the math if the question were coherent and the numbers are

Scratch

5/27/20 2:24pm

Here you go ...

ManicBlue

5/27/20 4:09pm

Depends on what you mean. The WSJ article already has the number you seem to be

Scratch

5/27/20 4:18pm

I know their fans are crap, but you can't actually COUNT crap as attendance .

Cougarclaw

5/27/20 9:38am

RE: Alright, who's been cooking their books?

mobius

5/27/20 9:41am

One of those things gives away all the unsold tickets for free.

BYUtka

5/27/20 9:42am

LOL.

Scratch

5/27/20 9:48am

RE: Alright, who's been cooking their books?

displacedute

5/27/20 9:47am

It's not jealousy, it's just amusement at the lengths people will go to falsify records

Indy Coug

5/27/20 9:48am

Maybe time for some . . .

Gustav

5/27/20 9:50am

RE: It's not jealousy, it's just amusement at the lengths people will go to

displacedute

5/27/20 9:51am

Lol. Take a look at the stadium capacities. Besides KS and UO (which are larger), Rice Eccles is WAYYY smaller

letthewookieewin

5/27/20 9:57am

It is even less impressive to have to lie about filling a 45k stadium.

thirdgencoug

5/27/20 10:03am

RE: Lol. Take a look at the stadium capacities. Besides KS and UO (which are

displacedute

5/27/20 10:05am

RE: Lol. Take a look at the stadium capacities. Besides KS and UO (which are

Fatalplacebo

5/27/20 10:14am

Jealous that you get 10K less fans?

ochobeeguy

5/27/20 10:07am

RE: Jealous that you get 10K less fans?

displacedute

5/27/20 10:14am

RE: Jealous that you get 10K less fans?

ochobeeguy

5/27/20 11:24am

RE: Jealous that you get 10K less fans?

displacedute

5/27/20 12:43pm

Wow, that’s the equivalent of stuffing a rolled up sock in your pants. Pathetic

Zaphod

5/27/20 10:08am

Utah boarding a flight through the "Actual Attendance, Not Announced" zone

Gustav

5/27/20 10:11am

What are you saying? Everyone reports tickets sold, not tickets scanned.

Scratch

5/27/20 10:34am

The Utes stuff the sock down the back of their pants though

mwcoug

5/27/20 10:14am

This was one of my dad’s favorite jokes! “The potato goes in the front”.

mvtoro

5/27/20 11:04am

Doesn’t their stadium hold like 15K? My high school team had more attendees

zerome4sooners

5/27/20 11:01am

BYU should pretend that LES has the same capacity that Utah pretends RES has.

TailgateU

5/27/20 11:04am

This is what "sold out" looks like.

wiscougarfan

5/27/20 11:10am

Last year I had a client who purchased a sponsorship with the U.

MaxxPower

5/27/20 12:01pm

6 of the 10 are Red color scheme schools FWIW.

BamaCoug

5/27/20 12:12pm

It's so lame to me that "tickets sold" is how they determine this

Resurgens

5/27/20 1:53pm

Utah sucks so bad.

TheWoodman

5/27/20 3:19pm

This is such a silly thing for Utah to be so proud of and to spend so much time lying about. It's hilarious

YIsForBrigham

5/27/20 6:19pm

Lying. LOL. So there’s no such thing as a sell-out in sports. BYU used to report

Scratch

5/27/20 7:03pm

Look at all these yewts getting so butthurt 😂 snowflakes

bornbyu93

5/27/20 11:52pm

BYU reports actual attendance

Gustav

5/28/20 9:25am

RE: BYU reports actual attendance

Scratch

5/28/20 9:31am

You can deny it as many times as you want. Doesn't change BYU's approach.

Gustav

5/28/20 9:36am

Can you answer those questions I posed? You understand that your position is

Scratch

5/28/20 9:52am

BYU also, for example, actually enforces its honor code, unlike most schools

Gustav

5/28/20 9:56am

LOL. And how is that in any way applicable here?

Scratch

5/28/20 10:01am

Because, and perhaps you dont get this, BYU does things differently

Gustav

5/28/20 10:09am

They do some things differently and some things the same. The numbers BYU

Scratch

5/28/20 10:18am

Here, take a look at this one. This is the box score for the BYU-Gonzaga

Scratch

5/28/20 10:25am

Actually the student section used an overflow area they don't sell tickets for t

puntersarepeople

5/28/20 10:54am

So no tickets sold and not counted. The bottom line is that reporting attendance

Scratch

5/28/20 10:55am

Why are you so obsessed with this?

Gustav

5/28/20 11:00am

Dude...

Jacob4thejazz

5/28/20 11:17am

People made some ridiculous statements criticizing the U for reporting

Scratch

5/28/20 11:29am

The smaller the stadium the easier it is to sell out.

GilbertAZCougar

5/28/20 12:17am

Silly thread. EVERYONE counts tickets sold. BYU has had 10s of thousands

ALUF 1990

5/28/20 5:49am

What a ridiculous thread. Everyone who follows college football knows that

theOnceler

5/28/20 9:36am

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