Get back to me when they actually do that.

Sign up, and CougarBoard will remember which categories you want to view. Sign up

Report problem with this ad

Jun 1, 2020
11:58:15am

CoachSpeak Intervention Needed

Get back to me when they actually do that.

Report problem with this ad

CoachSpeak

Bio page: CoachSpeak
Joined: Aug 25, 2013
Last login: Aug 18, 2020
Total posts: 23,002 (2,610 FO)

Report problem with this ad

Messages

Author

Time

<< Deleted >>

Ragnarok

6/1/20 10:58am

I saw this coming for the last couple of years...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:09am

The coaches have given scholarships to PWOs and that's part of the reason

donnerstag

6/1/20 11:14am

Not the point...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:20am

Isn't this what playing competitive sports has prepared these athletes for?

donnerstag

6/1/20 11:30am

How do they know that if the kid is just returning from a mission?

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:40am

Are the coaches pulling scholarships from mission kids?

donnerstag

6/1/20 11:43am

If they are telling them they have to delay then that is the same thing...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 12:01pm

It's not remotely the same thing

donnerstag

6/1/20 12:23pm

Of course it is the same thing...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 12:26pm

Without knowing how the conversation went, we don't know the ethics

donnerstag

6/1/20 12:42pm

But you are assuming aren't you?

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 12:50pm

Nope. I am saying we don't have a set of facts to judge

donnerstag

6/1/20 1:05pm

That's the thing about a message board...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 1:13pm

This isn't just a BYU problem (its a bigger issue at BYU due to the numbers)..

TheLost

6/1/20 4:39pm

I agree, all schools with large numbers of missionaries have that challenge...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 4:50pm

Awesome for Kafentzis....

6/1/20 3:30pm

Look as a PWO

I'mBatman

6/1/20 8:21pm

I don’t disagree....

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 10:27pm

They usually leave due to playing time

I'mBatman

6/2/20 9:43am

If the kid doesn't like the delay in scholarship, they can go elsewhere

donnerstag

6/1/20 11:11am

What about the kids though?

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:15am

BYU seems to play more walk-ons than many other schools

Doogal McCougar

6/1/20 11:21am

There are 2 separate issues here

donnerstag

6/1/20 11:22am

Yep it's pretty common for programs to let guys go if they are not in the 2 deep

Thrill

6/1/20 2:16pm

99% won't have options.. best they can hope for is a Walk-On offer, or maybe FCS

TheLost

6/1/20 4:23pm

symptom of underlying problem. poorly run organization/ team. expect results

claw

6/1/20 11:13am

Perhaps they over recruit on purpose for more depth. Could be a complete

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 11:13am

A "non issue" for who?

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:18am

Not really

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 11:21am

This is an area then that the PAC12 with its 4 year guaranty has surpassed BYU

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:32am

If the coaches are honest then it’s not immoral at all. Also, PWOs will continue

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 11:39am

It may not be immoral but it certainly doesn't make BYU competitive.

Everyman

6/1/20 12:25pm

The Pac hasn't exactly been world beaters lately.

mokelembembe

6/1/20 2:52pm

As long as they’re upfront to a Hs kid that that’s their policy

cougfanz

6/1/20 11:32am

That’s true

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 11:38am

Most BYU *walkons* are here because they want to be. They and their parents

Doogal McCougar

6/1/20 11:27am

Issue is the practice of cutting scholarship guys before their 4 years are up

cougfanz

6/1/20 11:31am

I care about the walkons who had promises made to them...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:42am

Agree 100%. Especially with down the line promises

cougfanz

6/1/20 11:46am

Are the coaches 100% guaranteeing PWOs scholarships?

donnerstag

6/1/20 11:53am

That's a cop out worthy of big ute right there...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:57am

Unless someone hears the exact conversation, I don't think we know with 100%

donnerstag

6/1/20 12:11pm

Sorry but that is a cop out...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 12:23pm

There is a difference with PWO's isn't there?

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 12:06pm

You realize that PWO's are not the same thing as a standard walkon don't you?

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:48am

You know they can just sign a small class this year to make room for PWOs right?

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 11:53am

Get back to me when they actually do that.

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 11:58am

Get back to me when they don’t give deserving PWOs scholarships

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 12:04pm

I'm not saying they never give any...

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 12:13pm

It sounds like your gripe is more about what they promise than actual management

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 12:27pm

They are one and the same.

CoachSpeak

6/1/20 12:29pm

Absolutely. I was referring to PWO, but used the term *walk-on*

Doogal McCougar

6/1/20 12:08pm

From what I heard they brought in an outside consultant

cougfanz

6/1/20 11:27am

I doubt it’s 10-15

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 11:44am

Yea I don’t know. But sometimes you don’t hear about the kid who was told a

cougfanz

6/1/20 11:48am

That number is not correct.

6/1/20 1:06pm

Shouldn't the coach have had a handle on the situation. Seriously, I can run a

coolblue

6/1/20 2:32pm

I'd like to say I don't believe the coaches could be that negligent,

cougaman

6/1/20 5:59pm

It was partially inflated by the four game redshirt rule

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 11:47am

was this crunch aggravated by guys coming home early from missions due to COVID and then not going back out?

byujag

6/1/20 11:50am

No, I don’t think so

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 11:51am

Elijah Unutoa is also home early

donnerstag

6/1/20 11:54am

That makes sense

puntersarepeople

6/1/20 12:05pm

Not covid related

cougfanz

6/1/20 12:01pm

Keeping BYU within scholarship limits is an art form

BeardedSpock

6/1/20 12:06pm

We'll start by not pretending it's a recent thing. It's a BYU thing.

6/1/20 12:28pm

This is not Bronco. Don't put any of this on Bronco. It is all KS. This is a

coolblue

6/1/20 2:35pm

RE: This is not Bronco. Don't put any of this on Bronco. It is all KS. This is

6/1/20 2:46pm

One issue is that the honor code inherently makes our APR score lower

SL12

6/1/20 1:56pm

All the missionaries coming home because of Covid create a crunch.

coolblue

6/1/20 2:28pm

Crunch has zero to do with those guys. This mess started 4 years ago. It's getting cleaned up now.

6/1/20 2:53pm

The body has nothing to do with your header.

6/1/20 3:32pm

Is there a component of the team that hasn't needed a reboot since KS started?

6/1/20 2:30pm

Kalani is accountable. But he isn't the root cause. It's a number of factors that compound a complicated problem that no

6/1/20 3:00pm

Report problem with this ad

Posting on CougarBoard

In order to post, you will need to either sign up or log in.

Report problem with this ad