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Nov 23, 2020
3:44:36pm

icecougar All-American

benefitted by hindsight...

....which Holmoe didn't have when he was negotiating with them. How was he supposed to know they were bargaining in bad faith? That's just not TH's style. Even now after they've thrown us under the bus in the court of public opinion he's still being classy and forthright in his response instead of firing back at them tit for tat.

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icecougar

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I think BYU missed a golden opportunity with this Washington fiasco

Medute

11/23/20 10:29am

I totally agree.

300BLK

11/23/20 10:31am

Good points, I agree

Alpi Gusto

11/23/20 10:31am

I generally agree. I am not sure Washington is automatically the best team on the schedule.

BYU '80

11/23/20 10:31am

I had the same thought...

icecougar

11/23/20 1:34pm

SDSU is still good but has lost close games

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:36pm

SDSU is bad

dizthewiz

11/23/20 2:58pm

I think you have to take into account Boise QB situation

Medute

11/23/20 3:55pm

BYU put up 51 pts regardless of who BSU had at QB or RB.

mcnasty

11/23/20 3:59pm

So I went to bed at halftime of that game

Medute

11/23/20 4:03pm

As the BSU head coach said, last year we beat them with our 3rd string QB.

11/23/20 5:34pm

I don’t disagree. I’m saying Washington right now is better than that Boise

Medute

11/23/20 6:09pm

You're right, but who are we to say the players don't deserve Thanksgiving with

Magathisll

11/23/20 10:31am

My guess is the players want this more than anyone. They'd give up Thanksgiving

DoctorTimmy

11/23/20 10:36am

If they are allowing players to go home, expect to have a lot test positive.

11/23/20 10:36am

This is my concern as well. Too many positives coming out of the holiday

rerunc

11/23/20 10:48am

Is there more virus in family homes than in college apartment complexes?

DMVCougar

11/23/20 1:23pm

Good point- my limited experience has been in my area that outbreaks have occure

rerunc

11/23/20 1:27pm

In this case yes. If the football team is being smart and not attending big

11/23/20 5:32pm

Agree 100%, really too bad that someone there didn't think of this.

11/23/20 10:33am

BYU needed to just add an out for themselves such as “if a better GUARANTEED game comes along we will take it.”

Dr MoBYU

11/23/20 10:33am

But I don’t think BYU wants to adhere to PAC12 testing guidelines foencovid

Dr MoBYU

11/23/20 10:34am

No one is considering the financial costs

Boring

11/23/20 12:05pm

What's the cost of missing NY6?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 12:27pm

Rational take...

Blue Ghost

11/23/20 10:35am

benefitted by hindsight...

icecougar

11/23/20 3:44pm

While I agree... to play that kind of PR game costs BYU money...

Coug

11/23/20 10:35am

How does that cost them money?

11/23/20 10:37am

Testing, travel, lodging.

11/23/20 10:41am

But they already test, and if Washington cancels, then they have to pay for

11/23/20 11:07am

The PAC 12's testing protocols are much more expensive.

11/23/20 11:16am

Their testing protocols are not in line with science or reason. Don’t go along with that crap

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:39pm

Exactly. Most of the other stipulations are a pain, the testing is a poison pill

Trent

11/23/20 1:43pm

I didn't say they were. I said they were more expensive.

11/23/20 5:34pm

that's if the game was guaranteed...

icecougar

11/23/20 3:47pm

If the PAC12 were serious about scheduling games with BYU, they'd have done so.

UCLACoug

11/23/20 10:39am

I agree, except for the part where BYU incurs a load of expenses

Westsider

11/23/20 10:39am

But from what I know, the team that cancels would then have to pay for it.

11/23/20 11:08am

No, the Pac-12chumps want BYU to absorb the cost.

CougarThug

11/23/20 11:09am

Gotcha, thanks for the info.

11/23/20 11:16am

You're not bowing down, you are doing EVERYTHING you can to play...

Z-Ute

11/23/20 12:31pm

Yeah you’re probably not biased. When Utah plays uw this weekend we will all know it was garbage from the start

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:40pm

Sure I'm biased and your not?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 2:25pm

Why are you on this board?

11/23/20 11:11pm

NO ONE IN THE PAC-12 MADE A SERIOUS OFFER TO PLAY

DMVCougar

11/24/20 4:21am

If the main issue a fan has with something is BYU’s financial impact, the fan

SLIVER

11/23/20 1:34pm

It doesn’t matter at all what the fans think here. They aren’t voting and they aren’t the ones with a shortfall

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:42pm

The AD doesn't have the luxury you do of ignoring reality

Mitty

11/23/20 7:33pm

Except BYU is using a different test and would need to immediately change their

Corn Pop

11/23/20 10:39am

I have to say I agree. I feel we handled it somewhat poorly.

DraperCoug22

11/23/20 10:42am

No guarantee is a lousy offer and it's a bush league move to whine to press.

11/23/20 10:42am

100% agree if it weren't Thanksgiving week

warp

11/23/20 10:46am

Yep very well said.

delux_247

11/23/20 10:46am

Yep

rggee

11/23/20 10:55am

Exactly. Can't argue any point here. Posted almost

CougaRR4L

11/23/20 10:58am

If Oregon or USC yeah, Washington doesn't move the needle at this point in time.

Mr. Scoobs

11/23/20 10:59am

UW may beat Oregon. No way to know that now.

jvquarterback

11/23/20 11:27am

Agree but timing is important in college football cause the system sucks.

Mr. Scoobs

11/23/20 11:33am

Did nobody listen to Holmoe's interview before the game Saturday?

TheLost

11/23/20 11:05am

Gotta say - well-reasoned post.

CatManBlue

11/23/20 11:25am

I don't think so. I think BYU looks pretty silly if the game gets canceled.

Ham

11/23/20 11:27am

Fair points, but I think you undervalue the significance of the financial impact/risk. They are already $20M short and

SingleStrapBackpack

11/23/20 11:37am

Politically speaking, you are correct...

TrueBlue67

11/23/20 11:52am

Easy fix here, just ask the players what they want to do.

CougaRR4L

11/23/20 12:03pm

Hate to ever agree with a Ute but this one actually has some brain function.

GangstaLean

11/23/20 11:54am

Yet he loiters in a BYU message board. 😉

DMVCougar

11/23/20 1:35pm

This is really easy to say when you aren't managing the finances

Mitty

11/23/20 12:22pm

BYU needs a ranked team to tip the needle. Utes and UW just don't do that

cougarnw

11/23/20 12:24pm

Problem is, once they beat a ranked team, that team is no longer ranked.

ochobeeguy

11/23/20 12:27pm

Unless it's a top 10 team also trying for a shot at the playoff

cougarnw

11/23/20 2:06pm

Agreed - Money is just money... it will come and go

Y not?

11/23/20 12:29pm

More than money at play

DMVCougar

11/23/20 2:10pm

💰 💴 💵 not worth the cash or headache to play them without a guarantee

Cosmo4life

11/23/20 12:29pm

How many schools are losing money this year?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 12:34pm

Make a contract like every other team then. If Washington cancels they don’t go

Cosmo4life

11/23/20 12:41pm

What else is UW supposed to do?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 1:10pm

Uw is in the pac. Of course they have something to prove. That’s ridiculous. The arrogance of your league knows no bound

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:47pm

Think if UW is undefeated there is any way they are left out of a NY6?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 2:16pm

They’d be left out of the playoffs since the PAC12 is not respected by the real

Cosmo4life

11/23/20 3:10pm

Read bud, says NY6!!

Z-Ute

11/23/20 7:49pm

You mean protect itself.

Z-Ute

11/23/20 2:22pm

Sign a contract. We will play you and won’t cancel to play Yewtah

Cosmo4life

11/23/20 3:09pm

Holmoe said Saturday they will not just take any game.

TheLost

11/23/20 12:37pm

Yes, that would have been the best move in hindsight. I don’t think they

akmewg

11/23/20 12:44pm

The one weakness in your post is whether or not something better is in the works. We don't know about that.

Byron McNertney

11/23/20 12:52pm

Holmoe said Saturday morning on pre-game that they weren’t looking to schedule

BlackBart

11/23/20 12:57pm

People should also realize that the kids have made travel plans (flights, etc)

rha1211

11/23/20 1:01pm

Boise St is better than UW

Hill4Heisman

11/23/20 1:12pm

Seen them both play, and that isn't true. UW would beat BSU by 10+.

11/23/20 1:21pm

Must have been that game where they should have lost to OSU. Or was it that game against the doormat Arizona?

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:48pm

Both those schools would be the 2nd and 3rd toughest on our schedule. Maybe 1st toughest this year.

11/23/20 2:28pm

I disagree. BYU shouldn't get caught up in the PR game.

Bobby Lee Swagger

11/23/20 1:13pm

The main problem is the Pac12 thinks they are much, much better of a conference

BDCpa

11/23/20 1:25pm

problem is, BYU always negotiates in good faith like most other schools. Udub...

icecougar

11/23/20 1:32pm

Spoken like a true bloated budget, PAC12 school.

CaughtForaTouchdown

11/23/20 1:36pm

Nothing like botching the first 3 months of the season and coming on here and talking to us about missed opportunities.

HeismanTy

11/23/20 1:56pm

The PAC12 royally screwed up and I have spoken about this often

Medute

11/23/20 2:37pm

That's fair. I didn't review your previous posts.

HeismanTy

11/23/20 3:00pm

I think your post was great and did bash BYU or gloat about the PAC.

11/23/20 3:15pm

Most of these are things that people should already be saying. But they are

Shaka Laka

11/23/20 2:35pm

Says the Ute fan who doesn't want to be crushed by Washington.

SpiffCoug

11/23/20 7:38pm

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