4th down trick play - GREAT call

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Jan 4, 2021
1:34:17pm

chazen All-American

4th down trick play - GREAT call

People here keep criticizing the 4th down flea flicker. It was an excellent play call. BYU's 4th down % was 54% this past season. Running the ball on 4th and 1 is, at best, a 50/50 chance and you saw how that failed later on in the game. The flea flicker gave ZW two options that were open - he had Romney deep with 1-2 yards of separation and then he had rex crossing with AT LEAST 5 yards of separation.

ZW went for the lower % throw to Romney downfield and the guy just blew it. Rex was the safer option and would have gotten an additional 7+ YAC.

It was a GREAT call. Two options were open. Rex was a 90% chance for a first down. That's much better than the 54% chance running the ball would have given us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRBr6XbqnZA

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Originally posted on Jan 4, 2021 at 1:34:17pm

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4th down trick play - GREAT call

chazen

1/4/21 1:34pm

The problem wasn't the call; it was the execution

2FarGone

1/4/21 1:36pm

It was the actually catching part. Everything else was just fine.

mudpupper

1/4/21 1:43pm

I'd say the #1 problem with that play was Zach's decision to throw it to Romney

Beggar

1/4/21 3:34pm

Missing Rex there is a tragedy

Mrs Featerbottom

1/4/21 1:36pm

Romney probably still has a mark on his chest. Zach made the throw. gotta catch

fulano

1/4/21 1:45pm

Yeah but in that situation you take the easiest route to a first down.

Mrs Featerbottom

1/4/21 3:22pm

That's the type of catch Romney has made all year too.

jrob30

1/4/21 1:36pm

Wow. Didn't notice Rex during the game. He would have gone for another 10-15

1/4/21 1:37pm

Probably would have been close to the same yardage as Romney

1/4/21 1:39pm

Yep. That was aggressive call and read by OC and QB.

The Old Y

1/4/21 1:41pm

Shows Wilsons confidence in Gunner... too bad

Cougar TD

1/4/21 1:43pm

I was laughing at the DB celebrating so much because it looked like Romney just

crack

1/4/21 1:37pm

does look like he punched out a sure catch

Cougarclaw

1/4/21 1:38pm

Nah, the ball bounced out of Romney's hands before he got there.

Benfica1

1/4/21 6:50pm

Yeah, the DB thought he broke it up. Romney just dropped it.

Benfica1

1/4/21 6:49pm

Yeah... but Romney really should've caught that

Rat

1/4/21 1:38pm

if he comes back to the ball, it's a catch

SaturdaySpecialDay

1/4/21 1:46pm

The difference between a brilliant and boneheaded call is whether it works.

1/4/21 1:38pm

It was a decent play call - but unnecessarily risky.

Eddie

1/4/21 1:39pm

It's an easier call after you've seen how the defense reacts to the play. You

SUAVO

1/4/21 1:53pm

True story.

Eddie

1/4/21 2:00pm

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The Old Y

1/4/21 1:40pm

RE: 4th down trick play - GREAT call

dilbert

1/4/21 1:42pm

he could have ran it just as easily as well and made it no problem.

Cougz19

1/4/21 1:43pm

Rex was not happy he didn't get the ball there

SaturdaySpecialDay

1/4/21 1:45pm

Man, hadn’t noticed how wide freaking open Rex was. Not only would that have

Corn Pop

1/4/21 1:46pm

It wasn't a risk. This play had a much, much higher chance of success than

chazen

1/4/21 2:03pm

Twice the ball is tossed backwards on that play. That’s two risks right there.

Corn Pop

1/4/21 2:21pm

A wise coach once said three things can happen on a pass play and two of them

Blueto

1/4/21 1:50pm

We have not been successful picking up short yardage on the ground.

Brigham

1/4/21 1:51pm

That's a dumb saying.

JuicyJam

1/4/21 1:54pm

Seriously

chazen

1/4/21 2:01pm

Didn't we do that later in the game and not get it?

SUAVO

1/4/21 1:55pm

No wise coach says that in 2020. That is an outdated mindset.

1/4/21 1:55pm

Not on 4th and 1

reddead

1/4/21 4:51pm

Never before heard Darrell Royal called wise

CougarThug

1/4/21 2:02pm

Seriously. I'm convinced some fans don't actually watch the games.

Ash

1/4/21 5:32pm

Funny to hear the announcer praise a DB after a straight drop.

1/4/21 1:55pm

Ya this play was one I thought about a lot after the game

BradioHead

1/4/21 1:58pm

It was better than a 54% chance of success to Romney. Romney caught 65% of his targets.

SpiffCoug

1/4/21 2:00pm

Have to disagree. So many things have to go right for that play to work

BamaCoug

1/4/21 2:13pm

We were at midfield?

SUAVO

1/4/21 2:19pm

When was the last time against a good defense that BYU was able to simply line

Ash

1/4/21 6:09pm

Gotta love seeing DBs celebrate when receivers just miss the catch

Hill4Heisman

1/4/21 2:57pm

Nah - he actually made a great play punching it out.

crack

1/4/21 3:02pm

After romney dropped it and tried to catch it again

SUAVO

1/4/21 3:05pm

this is hilarious. watch it again.

Beggar

1/4/21 3:13pm

Yeah, I can see it now when I watch it again.

crack

1/4/21 3:19pm

I think you were closer to the truth the 1st time.

Eddie

1/4/21 3:34pm

Wow. I never noticed how WIDE FREAKING OPEN Rex was. Poor decision by ZW.

Ham

1/4/21 3:25pm

The ball was perfectly placed in the chest of one of our best receivers.

1/4/21 3:37pm

Sure I can. It was a much tougher and riskier throw. Bad decision.

Ham

1/4/21 3:46pm

Let me rephrase. You can't blame ZW and be right.

1/4/21 4:42pm

Let's be clear here:

Ham

1/4/21 4:49pm

Zach can make those throws. In fact, he did. Decision was fine; ball was dropped

1/4/21 5:00pm

Clearly Ham's point is that Zach chose the lower % option. Romney had to go to

chazen

1/4/21 5:28pm

Imagine ZW being in a draft interview at the combine

1/4/21 5:06pm

That sounds like a fantastic "defense." Not that any defense is needed.

1/4/21 5:13pm

RE: That sounds like a fantastic "defense." Not that any defense is needed.

1/4/21 5:18pm

He did make a great throw. Just a bad decision.

Ham

1/4/21 9:01pm

I don't put it on Wilson at all. That was on Romney for dropping the ball.

BYUHgrad

1/4/21 3:51pm

As soon as you see a good opportunity, you throw - you don't keep looking for

Hill4Heisman

1/4/21 6:25pm

On thing to look at is why rin plays fail and when they work...

LEDSFW

1/4/21 3:29pm

Great call. Rex had the easy first down, YAC, and who knows what else. Too bad!

BYU I Bleed Blue

1/4/21 3:39pm

Here are the issues as I see them

schofim

1/4/21 5:59pm

Barrington never played again after that play. I assume that

claw

1/4/21 8:43pm

Watching the final play again

BradioHead

1/4/21 9:52pm

I think the rules officially allow offensive players to push, but not pull.

Eddie

1/5/21 11:49am

From what I have seen Wilson will always go for the option that

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1/5/21 7:05am

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