No Clemson has the be benefit of P5 money, they have built their program up but

Jan 12, 2021
1:20:32am

akmewg All-American

It’s hardly a Cinderella story, any P5 can have a great season and make the playoffs (look at ISU and how high they were ranked for their ‘historic’ season). Clemson just found a good enough coach to sustain that success.

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I keep reading that expanding the playoff will create more parity between G5/P5

Alpi Gusto

1/12/21 12:34am

Counterpoint to your first point. That’s a G5 almost every other year in the

BYUCLA

1/12/21 12:40am

I agree with you. The current system in CFB doesn’t allow for a G5 to make it

Alpi Gusto

1/12/21 12:47am

I’m not sure why there shouldn’t be any guarantees to G5’s.

BYUCLA

1/12/21 1:02am

UConn has never been a P5 and were clearly G5 last time they won

CougarVeteran

1/12/21 1:07am

RE: point 1. You just listed many mid-majors who made it to the Final 4. How

Cougar8Duck

1/12/21 12:43am

I’m not sure I’m following the top half of your post

Alpi Gusto

1/12/21 12:59am

The Zags are literally an example of what you are saying doesn’t happen.

BYUCLA

1/12/21 1:07am

So you're saying Villanova is P5? Or P6 in basketball with the Big East?

RenoCoug

1/12/21 12:59am

There is no P5 in CBB, Big east teams are not considered mid majors.

akmewg

1/12/21 1:04am

The OP said P5, not major/mid major

RenoCoug

1/12/21 1:04am

My bad, I assumed people who followed CBB would understand

Alpi Gusto

1/12/21 1:08am

Clarification to the OP doesn't change the analysis, more teams = more parity

RenoCoug

1/12/21 1:12am

As I mentioned above, UConn has never been P5

CougarVeteran

1/12/21 1:11am

I don't agree that the Big East was a "weak" basketball conference, still isn't

RenoCoug

1/12/21 1:13am

I'm not claiming it was — but it was not a "P5"

CougarVeteran

1/12/21 1:27am

Look no further than the Zags, how many weeks have they been ranked #1 in the

akmewg

1/12/21 1:02am

Didn’t that happen with Clemson?

Alpi Gusto

1/12/21 1:13am

Clemson's been an above-average team since the late 1970's, early 1980's

RenoCoug

1/12/21 1:17am

No Clemson has the be benefit of P5 money, they have built their program up but

akmewg

1/12/21 1:20am

But it is also an argument for the expanded playoff

CougarVeteran

1/12/21 1:30am

The 1 & done rule is what facilitated this possibility for Gonzaga.

RdF3

1/12/21 3:33am

How about this, since 2014 (start of the playoff) 11 teams have made the CFP, 20

akmewg

1/12/21 1:08am

For comparison Clemson and BAMA have made 6, OSU and OK 4, ND 2, in fact,

akmewg

1/12/21 1:34am

Agree with your overall point, but FSU wasn't really a Cinderella at that point.

Shinshin

1/12/21 6:37am

I was being sarcastic about the Cinderella, both those teams had been to NC game

akmewg

1/12/21 9:32am

Got it. My sarcasm meter is off. Funny thing is, though, that either one would

Shinshin

1/12/21 10:08am

You mean playing on the field or court produces different results than playing

Six Foot Seven

1/12/21 4:23am

In college football there would never be a Gonzaga. Case rested.

EtTuKalante

1/12/21 4:43am

Basketball is not football. Go look at FCS.

Blue Cat

1/12/21 6:09am

Who cares about parity? It's about equity. It's about opportunity.

EtTuKalante

1/12/21 6:13am

Basketball and football are completely different sports. It’s not hard to get

westcoastcoug

1/12/21 6:35am

I'm going to wreck your parity argument, using your exact data set from 2009.

HoustonBYUCoug

1/12/21 6:39am

Now do the final four teams

puntersarepeople

1/12/21 8:29am

Gonzaga is an undisputed power in basketball and a threat to win it all each

Ash

1/12/21 6:52am

Until CFB turns into one gigantic conference (like professional sports), the

Junior Deputy

1/12/21 7:06am

Another issue is you are arguing under the false premise that there is an effort

DJROSS

1/12/21 7:15am

Also: if it wouldn’t increase parity, why is the P5 so afraid of it?

Junior Deputy

1/12/21 7:20am

$. Easy.

Alpi Gusto

1/12/21 8:25am

You just proved my point. $$ buys coaches, facilities, etc. Coaches and

Junior Deputy

1/12/21 10:43am

All true points, but enjoyment would increase, discontent would decrease

krindorr

1/12/21 7:33am

You’re wrong about not guaranteeing at least one G5 team. Doing that will kill

puntersarepeople

1/12/21 8:26am

I was thinking today, the best way to increase parity would be for the NCAA to

Powerbait DPM

1/12/21 8:39am

Lamest post ever.

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