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Multiple economic studies have confirmed that municipal funding of stadiums and

Genghis Spreads

2:46am

What about when government funding is only a portion and it brings in a team?

notaboy

3:27am

Most studies show that it generally is just a transfer of wealth to the owners

NumbersGuy

4:52am

Can you link to some of those studies?

WVU_Prof

4:48am

Here is a survey paper that has a pretty good literature review on the topic:

NumbersGuy

4:58am

In addition to what Numbersguy posted, a few great books:

Genghis Spreads

5:12am

Lyle Lanley put Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook on the map after he

kunarcougar

5:09am

College basketball. Professional athletes w/ <1 year contracts w/the schools,

rivercitycoug

2:31am

Let’s hope NIL gets some balance

Archaea

2:21am

What in the past 30 years has given you the impression that the powers that be in college sports have any interest

Sea Chicken

4:56am

England, a great and complex history

Archaea

2:13am

In the UK right now for the London marathon (wife) it’s freezing.

VegasCoug

4:15am

That’s awesome. How’d she get in? Is it time, lottery, charity fundraising qualifier, something else?

Joe Banks

4:17am

Headed to Oxford tomorrow or Monday. Good luck to her

Archaea

4:31am

Anyone know how long before first pitch batting practice normally starts?

JaromJordan32

12:54am

Am I the only one waiting for

Archaea

12:41am

Not happening

Blue2thebone

12:54am

Ever or just this weekend?

Archaea

1:27am

I hate NIL. But if you're all in for the coach, you BETTER BE all in for NIL

WabiSabi

12:36am

There are just too many conflicting issues in college sports now. You have to

johnnybyu

12:42am

Dan Hurley on recruiting . . .

Nodak Cougar

12:35am

If you have won a couple of national championships

Archaea

12:47am

Or maybe if you get team players you win a couple national championships?

WVU_Prof

4:06am

Wow! When playing is all about the money, even though it might not

BYUJoJo

12:57am

The natural man is an enemy to god

JosephAllenMaldonado

1:10am

He's got a great formula. It works. He builds championship teams.

DawgHaus

3:09am

Sounds like even Hurley has

DeepCCoug

5:08am

No insider info. Hall comes back, Saunders to UK.

CougLyfe

12:19am

I'd like to know the money being offered Saunders. Young needs to keep

DawgHaus

12:31am

It hurts BYU knowing Saunders is married. He can make way more in the next 2 ye

johnnybyu

12:47am

Such a short sided view couple hundred thousand bucks nothing

Blue2thebone

1:00am

Tell that to your college aged self. I took an awesome job for 38k out of byu

johnnybyu

1:04am

It’s such a short sided view that is really quite immature

Blue2thebone

1:38am

With the housing market the way it is around most of the country

BondWeaver

2:25am

I have no idea what you mean by that. He’s married- graduating from UK is just

SouthernBlueBlood

4:17am

Sometimes you just gotta pick which side you’re on. The long side or the short

m0resn0w

4:44am

Is it confirmed he is leaving?

Archaea

1:28am

Did you see him at the press conference?

Blue2thebone

1:38am

Shouldn’t be conclusive

Archaea

2:18am

Hmmmm...

Choke

12:18am

Fellow night owls, very good Hawaii Irvine match ESPN+ set 1 18-17

SwanSong

12:11am

Thim the “Flyin’ Hawaiin” is LDS 34-36 Irvine won both Sets so far

SwanSong

1:08am

All CBB fans in the country should just go on strike until this NIL thing is

Mitty

12:09am

They've been doing their part at the huntsman center for two decades.

777

12:34am

OU pitcher was throwing gas - hit 97. You don’t see that often

SwanSong

Apr 19, 11:49pm

But how fast can he throw a baseball?

Shihan

Apr 19, 11:51pm

This is where we need the wow emoji.

VenomFarmer

12:04am

Nothing makes sense. A guy like Dallin Hall can demand half a million and

777

Apr 19, 11:34pm

IMO, things will level off at some point when boosters get burned too many times and find out that they're not getting

ManicBlue

Apr 19, 11:38pm

NBA is not the only option for Pro ball. Sure that is every players goal, but

gp232

Apr 19, 11:39pm

You can see how it will collapse. People are paying big money because of the

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 11:45pm

I argued for many years that the number of D1 athletes who actually

garyfan

Apr 19, 11:39pm

Exactly, and now the name on the front of the jersey is becoming meaningless

777

Apr 19, 11:54pm

This year has been eye opening. They are minor league pros but getting paid

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 11:42pm

And the next year they leave for bigger money at a different school

2FarGone

Apr 19, 11:44pm

As they should they only have 4 years to make money. Their agents are going to

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 11:48pm

I think even the players know this gravy train won’t last

Heath Squashwell

Apr 19, 11:50pm

The current players only have 4 years or less. They don't care if it goes to

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 11:52pm

Exactly, their timeline is short. Makes sense. But it won’t last.

Heath Squashwell

Apr 19, 11:53pm

What is the result of it not lasting. I think fans leave. Will hurt pro sports

johnnybyu

12:19am

Actually you are inferring that it's a bad thing

TNT

Apr 19, 11:53pm

For you and I yes. For mediocre college athletes it's incredible.

777

Apr 19, 11:56pm

Here's what's happening: College basketball is a business, and Hall is finally

PGVikingDad

Apr 19, 11:58pm

Its very odd. People are paying for the name on the front of the jersey. Player

johnnybyu

12:01am

johnnybyu, I have felt the same uneasiness you have expressed in

BYUJoJo

12:32am

Well, that all depends on why the business was successful? There is no

777

12:18am

If Hall never touched a basketball again, there is not a school in the country

garyfan

12:20am

Lots of things in business don't make sense. But markets collapse, bubbles burst

Great38

12:49am

He's an HM all-conference player in the best bball conference in college as a...

icecougar

12:17am

I am a huge Hall fanboy, it isn't about Hall but the complete mess that NIL and

johnnybyu

12:32am

Well said.

777

12:39am

It’s the end of the world . . . (!)

AZcougLawyer

1:01am

Look at it differently. What is the proper total salary pool for an NCAA top 40 team that can sell 5-10k seats a game?

Joe Banks

4:39am

Royals had 2% odds of making the postseason at the start, odds are now 46%

BaseCoug

Apr 19, 11:33pm

They've been great, but that's largely a default position.

Methusaleh22

Apr 19, 11:35pm

I wonder if Holmoe and Santiago thought about a possible interim head coach?

Blue2thebone Intervention Needed

Apr 19, 11:29pm

POLL: How long will Pope last at Kentucky?

Haysom Till All-American

Apr 19, 11:26pm

who cares?

mindzeYe

Apr 19, 11:48pm

I kinda don't care, but I hope he stays there for a long time.

VenomFarmer

12:09am

If he doesn't make the sweet 16...three years

coot20

12:42am

Why should anyone care? Butthurt much?

ManicBlue

12:30am

No option for don’t care. Pope was good in exceeding expectations this past year

BYU I Bleed Blue

12:44am

if he so chooses, he will be paid his complete contract over five years.

cosmos son

3:11am

Dodger fans when do you hit the panic button

DKN

Apr 19, 11:25pm

Usually October 8th. Same plan this year.

Methusaleh22

Apr 19, 11:27pm

Certainly not when we're in 1st place in April. Especially because it's hard to

Methusaleh22

Apr 19, 11:29pm

When we’re down 3-1 in the NLCS

garyfan

Apr 19, 11:27pm

We don’t

JOPE

Apr 19, 11:51pm

We don't. Giants, Padres and Rockies are in the division. Nothing to fear.

Run-DMT

12:16am

Every time I see Dave Roberts in the dugout and know he’s making decisions

WY_CougFan

12:17am

Mets board - LGM! 😀 I’m probably the only one on CB 😀 Anyone else?

CougFan4EverEver

Apr 19, 11:22pm

The nice thing about being a Mets fan is that each win is that much more special

garyfan

Apr 19, 11:24pm

Haha, it’s not the easiest path. They won in ‘86 and became my team then.

CougFan4EverEver

Apr 19, 11:25pm

Holla! LGM!!!

Solomon Levi

2:21am

I was relaxed when Pope left, and I'm okay about any players who might go...

BlueZone

Apr 19, 11:18pm

I am optimistic about kY but it's not even close to "biggest

cougarfann888

Apr 19, 11:21pm

It's also a pretty risky hire. And TERRIBLE timing. We NEED a roster-builder in place right now.

SinkingQuffa

Apr 19, 11:24pm

John Calipari is a legend.

BlueZone

Apr 19, 11:49pm

I am not saying they are brilliant. I am just saying they are proven

cougarfann888

12:06am

Great hire, but NIL and the transfer portal has been eye opening this year.

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 11:25pm

I feel exactly the same way, johnnybyu.

BYUJoJo

Apr 19, 11:34pm

I didn't know KY players are leaving. No wonder Pope is desperate for BYU guys.

BlueZone

Apr 19, 11:37pm

Someone posted Kentucky has 0 committed players for next year. It is wild and

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 11:50pm

What’s happening with the rest of the Big12 and the portal?

AF Cougar

12:07am

Don't know Pops Isaac is going. I am aware of Duke, UK, and BYU due to recent

johnnybyu

12:14am

Forgot to say I'm also a UK fan. My dad's family settled KY in the early 1800s

BlueZone

Apr 19, 11:35pm

They settled Kevin Young in the 1800’s?

MrSandman

12:18am

This is what it will be like when this new coaching staff hit the ground running

Blue2thebone

Apr 19, 11:36pm

Fandom is so easy for some. Something happens? No big deal. Lose a player? It'll

Incentivize

Apr 19, 11:57pm

I agree with you, and I was worried, but not in a panic. Same now.

BlueZone

Apr 19, 11:59pm

I know most of y'all won't watch The Wire. But Ziggy Sobotka takes the cake as

Hypnotoad

Apr 19, 11:16pm

Ziggy is great because he's so dumb and entitled in his little corner of his little universe.

jacobugath

Apr 19, 11:38pm

Lindor was out. Nice throw by the Rookie

Colorado All-American

Apr 19, 11:01pm

Wrong, his foot beat the tag. He was safe. LGM!

CougFan4EverEver

Apr 19, 11:06pm

His foot bounced over the plate

Colorado

Apr 19, 11:11pm

Second foot still beat the tag.

CougFan4EverEver

Apr 19, 11:14pm

He got himself in truffle there

The 435

Apr 19, 11:12pm

No surprise to most of us, but wow the NL West is weak this year. Top to bottom.

jacobugath INSUFFERABLE KNOW IT ALL

Apr 19, 10:54pm

Dodgers will be fine. They've got a lot of pitching coming back throughout the year.

Colorado

Apr 19, 10:59pm

Did I say anything about the Dodgers?

jacobugath

Apr 19, 11:04pm

RE: Did I say anything about the Dodgers?

garyfan

Apr 19, 11:05pm

Well you did mention the top which is where they are now and almost certainly

Methusaleh22

Apr 19, 11:07pm

I mean, I guess if you look at it THAT way, sure. I was speaking more generally about the entire division.

jacobugath

Apr 19, 11:08pm

Yes, but you said the top was weak. Which is categorically incorrect. Terrible

Methusaleh22

Apr 19, 11:16pm

Did I? I don't know. That sounds like trolling.

jacobugath

Apr 19, 11:36pm

Frustrated too….

LuvtheCougs

Apr 19, 10:40pm

Add not assistant coaches announced = frustration

airbug

Apr 19, 10:54pm

I won’t watch college sports either anymore from now on until September.

Chefcurry

Apr 19, 10:54pm

Players will leave every year because they have "agents" getting paid to move

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 11:17pm

Take a chill pill. We are not all going to die.

BlueZone

Apr 19, 11:32pm

All but like 5 of us will.

AZcougLawyer

12:49am

The point that someone made on here earlier that I agree with is the universitie

JosephAllenMaldonado

1:37am

NIL isn’t doing this. At least not solely. The transfer rule is creating free agency for every player.

Cougar Jazz Fan

3:03am

Now that college players are paid professionals seems crazy they have a 4 year

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 10:30pm

4 years of this nonsense is about all fans can handle. If they aren’t going to

BlooCoug

Apr 19, 10:40pm

They are college sponsored teams, but not sure any NIL player is getting a

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 10:51pm

Getting a degree doesn't even seem like it will be a goal.

BYUJoJo

Apr 19, 10:54pm

If you can make 5-10 times more during college than you will after the degree

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 10:58pm

Stanford is done with sports? Link?

BlooCoug

Apr 19, 10:59pm

They are not eliminating sports, but they won't be competitive in Bball and

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 11:03pm

I'm inclined to agree. What is going on now is just unsustainable. As one

BYUJoJo

Apr 19, 10:52pm

Mercenaries is what they are. Yet, per the B12, schools have to guarantee

airbug

Apr 19, 10:53pm

So many strange rules. The thing will collapse unless the to schools come up wi

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 10:56pm

RE: Mercenaries is what they are. Yet, per the B12, schools have to guarantee

occougar

Apr 19, 10:58pm

Agreed but not sure how they get those rules and enforce them. Seems like it wil

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 11:00pm

Limit transfers to 2 per athlete. 1st one they can play immediately. 2nd one

byusage

Apr 19, 11:02pm

That's why I laughed at the BYU player cards they handed out each game. Guys

777

Apr 19, 11:15pm

Well said, 777.

BYUJoJo

Apr 19, 11:28pm

NCAA=No Consistency At All

Armchaircoug

Apr 19, 10:24pm

Not really the current regimes' fault. Whenever they try, they get sued.

spidercoug

Apr 19, 10:26pm

Every once in a while I will check KSL Classifieds for free crap. For the past

Hambone

Apr 19, 10:23pm

lol at you guys who don’t know what offering a free ice scraper in the

StantonMac

Apr 19, 10:52pm

Didn't realize anyone here was into that. BM sent!

Methusaleh22

Apr 19, 11:23pm

Who checks KSL for free stuff.....?

Penske Material

Apr 19, 10:58pm

RE: Who checks KSL for free stuff.....?

OldFogey

12:24am

Maybe its a Tik Tok experiment 🙂

BlooCoug

Apr 19, 11:03pm

Joe Montana

TailgateU

Apr 19, 10:21pm

Steve Young

BlooCoug

Apr 19, 10:38pm

From SY's biography, "My Life Behind the Spiral": Steve was having dinner at Joe

BleedCougarBlue2

Apr 19, 10:47pm

Kevin Young

MrSandman

Apr 19, 11:10pm

Caption your feelings about BYU not having a head coach in Provo until the Suns playoff run is over.. at the most

Blue2thebone Intervention Needed

Apr 19, 10:17pm

Go t-wolves

Forbidden Fruit

Apr 19, 10:18pm

It's always a great day to be a T-wolf!

BYUtka

Apr 19, 10:45pm

RE: Caption your feelings about BYU not having a head coach in Provo until the

Dr.Cougar.DPT

Apr 19, 10:21pm

If only he had an assistant

Blue2thebone

Apr 19, 10:34pm

I blame Covid…

Dr.Cougar.DPT

Apr 19, 11:03pm

RE: Caption your feelings about BYU not having a head coach in Provo until the

provoprodigy

Apr 19, 10:24pm

Not sure it matters. Looks like you need a GM with a checkbook figuring out

johnnybyu

Apr 19, 10:36pm

RE: Caption your feelings about BYU not having a head coach in Provo until the

BlooCoug

Apr 19, 10:41pm

Never let short term situations cloud long term improvements.

Blue Print

Apr 19, 10:54pm

It’s about the worst possible way that BYU’s coach could start things off

Blue2thebone

Apr 19, 10:56pm

Street cred. Hope he wins the title.

niqmadu

Apr 19, 10:58pm

RE: Caption your feelings about BYU not having a head coach in Provo until the

kimdaddy35

Apr 19, 10:59pm

RE: Caption your feelings about BYU not having a head coach in Provo until the

andrewg3

Apr 19, 11:41pm

RE: Caption your feelings about BYU not having a head coach in Provo until the Suns playoff run is over.. at the most

SinkingQuffa

Apr 19, 11:44pm

We usually goes this long between coaches anyway. It will work out.

ThreatLevelMidnight

Apr 19, 11:45pm

The month of April ain't anything like it was for college bball even just 5 short years ago.

SinkingQuffa

12:00am

RE: We usually goes this long between coaches anyway. It will work out.

Blue2thebone

12:51am

RE: Caption your feelings about BYU not having a head coach in Provo until the Suns playoff run is over.. at the most

2FarGone

12:02am

So how are they gonna make the Delta Center good for hockey?

HingleMcCringleberry

Apr 19, 10:14pm

They used to have hockey there all the time. Seemed fine the times I went.

BluePostum

Apr 19, 10:15pm

I am guessing it will be a Provo temple type “renovation”. The picture looks

Ojiisan

Apr 19, 10:15pm

It needs some internal work not just external facade changes. Sight lines are

pegushin

Apr 19, 10:17pm

Can you share a link with the images of the new arena look?

Frankfromtheballpark

Apr 19, 10:21pm

He said this is the view from City Creek

Ojiisan

Apr 19, 10:25pm

Thanks! Hopefully they make the inside viewing as good as that outside rendering

Frankfromtheballpark

Apr 19, 10:33pm

Yeah, but that picture was from when they were talking about a new arena.

fredgarvin

Apr 19, 10:34pm

He said today that this photo is the renovated DC, not a new arena.

Tesla Coug

Apr 19, 10:47pm

Interesting. Looks like the same pic they used before.

fredgarvin

Apr 19, 10:49pm

I bet they do change the facade, though. Smith mentioned that

Hypnotoad

Apr 19, 10:54pm

It's perfect for basketball. I worry making it better for hockey will put the

ImRonBurgundy?

Apr 19, 10:18pm

Ryan Smith it'll hold 17K for hockey and 19K for basketball.

Tesla Coug

Apr 19, 10:46pm

Smith said that's not going to happen

Hypnotoad

Apr 19, 10:50pm

I remember going to a game in staples center before and remember that it felt so

Dat_rmishner

Apr 19, 11:02pm

I really hope that technology does what Smith claims.

Hypnotoad

Apr 19, 11:07pm

he said something about some new technology that will allow

Phred84044

Apr 19, 10:39pm

It's not just the upper bowl that needs work. The closest rows are 20 feet above

Hypnotoad

Apr 19, 10:52pm

Smith claims there is new technology that is going to be used.

Hypnotoad

Apr 19, 10:49pm

The way he described it made me think the stands can shift.

rad dawg

12:39am

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