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Apr 7, 2021
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Slim
Intervention Needed
The problem with that line of thinking is that the government is already taking our money without our permission to pay
for the healthcare costs of those who wish to prolong life indefinitely and unreasonably.
Right now you can have zero ability to pay and walk into a hospital with a terminal diagnosis and demand to be kept alive at the cost of taxpayers
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No matter how sick someone is and close to end of life there are some families who will ALWAYS be angry and offended if
Slim
Intervention Needed
4/7/21 7:48pm
I agree. End of life care in America needs a significant paradigm shift.
hebercreeper
4/7/21 7:52pm
This should be everyone's take home message from this pandemic
kiyoshige
4/8/21 6:47am
Being Mortal; Everyone needs to read it
Noni Fruit
4/7/21 8:00pm
Amazing and important book
CDV
4/7/21 8:13pm
Yep. My Dad had terminal cancer. He chose to die at home. Maybe could have lived a few more months in a hospital
SpotOnOpinionsGuy
4/7/21 8:01pm
Death panels!!!!
JoeMamaBesser
4/7/21 8:02pm
What’s really sad is that because so many people refuse to think about these things or have these conversations we end
Slim
4/7/21 8:10pm
Couldn’t agree more. Both my parents passed away over the last 12 months...
JoeMamaBesser
4/7/21 8:21pm
You need government to intervene in private decisions about end of life care? Ok
SwanSong
4/7/21 8:30pm
That's not what the law called for but the talking point obscured that as
JoeMamaBesser
4/7/21 8:36pm
The problem with that line of thinking is that the government is already taking our money without our permission to pay
Slim
4/7/21 8:42pm
Also the decision was made long ago to have a single payer system for old people
JoeMamaBesser
4/7/21 8:46pm
If I remember correctly there were no panels in the proposal. It was an
StalwartBraveTrue
4/8/21 9:02am
Working in ICU was eye opening. Its so sad what kids subject their parents to.
Backcountry
4/7/21 8:03pm
My wife and I have this discussion. It’s not fun but we do. My kids are aware of
BPintheCouv
4/7/21 8:05pm
That’s why we have an electronic end-of-life care registry. People
AF Cougar
4/7/21 8:13pm
Great step but not enough. You have to actually talk to your loved ones. And for many people you have to educate
CDV
4/7/21 8:15pm
Amen. 7/10 times families will go directly against a POLST.
StalwartBraveTrue
4/7/21 9:48pm
I found this video to be helpful in deciding when to pull the plug
TCuz
4/7/21 8:17pm
When we talked to one family about hospice, they got angry with us because
KingDave
4/7/21 8:24pm
There's a story that has been handed down in my family
justAnotherCoug
4/7/21 8:32pm
Agree. My dad's decision about terminal illness was a real blessing
Orem58thBall
4/7/21 9:13pm
There was an article that was eye opening to me: how doctors die.
Cougarclaw
4/7/21 9:27pm
Great post. I volunteered in a large ICU for 13 years. The experience caused
WallaX2
4/7/21 9:39pm
“No heroic measures” is the worst line ever.
StalwartBraveTrue
4/7/21 9:47pm
No one knows what it actually means. Additionally there are lots of documents drawn up by lawyers RE end of life care
Slim
4/7/21 9:57pm
Completely agree. No one can convince me there’s a good substitute for talking
StalwartBraveTrue
4/9/21 11:48pm
I had a patients daughter ask me directly “would you place this g-tube if this
gtown
4/7/21 11:17pm
My dad had an early LVAD and it made hospice and dying very difficult. He needed to pass, but without the natural
mvtoro
4/8/21 12:17am
A big part of the problem is so many want to fight all the way despite odds
Bobmarleyjr
4/8/21 1:03am
my BIL had pancreatic cancer fought 4 two years
kiyoshige
4/8/21 6:52am
Wow that’s a long time to survive pancreatic cancer
Bobmarleyjr
4/8/21 10:32am
Yes it was. By the end the family was ready. Some are not.
kiyoshige
4/8/21 11:38am
It seems hospice is just pumping morphine
vabeachcoug
4/8/21 12:55pm
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