I really like Pope and want him here for a long time. But, that might not be in the cards. Kalani on the other hand sure seems like he is all in and 100% BYU. I like that, and as much as I've been frustrated with him on some things he has done a lot for BYU and I'm hopeful they are trending the right way.

I honestly was surprised Pope would interview right now. I thought he wanted to build at BYU. Hopefully he does, but he might be more aggressive at leaving than I thought.