What about plants... they have a consciousness... we just don’t know how to

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Jun 9, 2021
6:27:29pm

kotacoug Truly Addicted User

Channel it. We should avoid killing plants as well

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kotacoug

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Update on the Bear Hunt

cornellcoug

6/9/21 5:29pm

Congrats!! Update us on the meat and preparations and your thoughts.

fldnstrm

6/9/21 5:33pm

I think that we are going to do the hams and mostly summer and Italian sausage

cornellcoug

6/9/21 5:43pm

Woh, does it usually take a big group of hounds like that?

D.T. Survivor

6/9/21 5:35pm

It is a super cool process that they do and they are always training new dogs

cornellcoug

6/9/21 5:43pm

Poor bear

BIG XII Coug

6/9/21 5:48pm

don't worry, he was probably a BAD bear.

Cougarclaw

6/9/21 5:55pm

My thoughts as well. I don't get it.

Zachs Mom

6/9/21 5:55pm

They taste great.

panacablue

6/9/21 6:04pm

In nature death is never pretty. It could easily be argued these bears had a more humane death than their cohorts

fldnstrm

6/9/21 6:11pm

Is it bad TNT laughed at your sig?

TNT

6/9/21 7:05pm

Very.

fldnstrm

6/9/21 8:10pm

Not at all. Totally appropriate.

TailgateU

6/10/21 12:06am

Its ok. Bears, like dogs, are unaware of their own existence and dont even

Backcountry

6/9/21 5:56pm

What about deer? They keep eating my garden and I’ve about had it

A Drew Aitch

6/9/21 6:00pm

Same. Little robots. Driven by instinct. Also like dogs.

Backcountry

6/9/21 6:03pm

I don’t think anyone knows what animal consciousness is like. We don’t even

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:14pm

What about plants... they have a consciousness... we just don’t know how to

kotacoug

6/9/21 6:27pm

You’re making the assumption that I believe hunting is wrong because animal

Jstak17

6/11/21 1:51pm

Not a poor bear if you don't hunt them they will overpopulate, starve or succumb

BYU Grounds

6/10/21 5:18pm

Having a huge pack of hounds doesn’t sound like a hunt to me. Real sportsmen.

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:06pm

What, so you’re saying dogs can’t hunt? That’s mean

A Drew Aitch

6/9/21 6:12pm

I guess it’s a hunt for the dogs. Not the people. Any one that walks can follow

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:18pm

This is unequivocally not true. The second bear taken was 1.5 miles away

cornellcoug

6/9/21 9:15pm

What's your preference? Language warning. Nature is brutal.

fldnstrm

6/9/21 6:14pm

Yeah, sending a huge pack of dogs on a bear isn’t natural. They are trained to

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:20pm

Packs of wolves would disagree.

fldnstrm

6/9/21 6:24pm

Read my whole post lol.

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:25pm

The pack of dogs has natural ability to track and tree animals training aside.

fldnstrm

6/9/21 6:28pm

Would dogs hunt a bear in nature? Seems like they would go after an easier

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:41pm

So it is about fairness. Gotcha.

fldnstrm

6/9/21 6:46pm

In a recreational hunt yes. Don’t we always want fairness? However, in this case

Jstak17

6/11/21 1:17pm

Yep nothing natural about man using tools to hunt.....

kotacoug

6/9/21 6:24pm

Umm, no. It’s really pretty simple. And I’m not taking some treehugger line.

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:32pm

Lol.... seriously you think hunts are suppose to be fair? Haha

kotacoug

6/9/21 6:40pm

Maybe at least a chance for the animal to escape? Do you fish with Dynamite?

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:43pm

We have been using dogs to hunt for centuries

kotacoug

6/9/21 6:46pm

Is it fun? I’ve read Where the red fern grows. That seemed more of a challenge

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:50pm

Subsistance hunting and trophy hunting are very different

Hotlanta

6/9/21 6:51pm

Unless your vegetarian your argument rings hollow.

fldnstrm

6/9/21 6:54pm

Anyone who brings up ‘trophy’ hunting in argument has absolutely no clue about

kotacoug

6/9/21 8:00pm

I’m eating the meat. In fact on Saturday I am processing all of it.

cornellcoug

6/9/21 9:00pm

You kinda lost me at "fair".

Eddie

6/9/21 6:48pm

So, I think you need to draw the line somewhere. I have no problem with bird

Jstak17

6/9/21 6:57pm

I’ve taken many more animals with archery than I have with hounds

cornellcoug

6/9/21 9:04pm

Absolutely, this isn’t a personal attack. Just doesn’t seem much of a challenge

Jstak17

6/9/21 11:01pm

I can understand drawing the line somewhere.

Eddie

6/10/21 8:20am

I’ve been kind of surprised by the reaction quite honestly. Granted, it was

Jstak17

6/11/21 8:35am

The reaction stems from the second sentence of this post. It just comes off derisive.

fldnstrm

6/11/21 8:53am

You are right, I apologized in the last post I made.Plenty of sportsmen on here.

Jstak17

6/11/21 12:43pm

Conversation is good - we all can learn from each other.

Eddie

6/11/21 9:02am

Its funny because as the author of this post, I never took offense to it

cornellcoug

6/11/21 9:06am

That's the beauty of CB. You don't have to get offended.

Eddie

6/11/21 9:15am

I came at you with the “real sportsman” bash. Glad you didn’t take offense.

Jstak17

6/11/21 1:56pm

What are your thoughts on the ethics of using scopes? Binoculars?

cougfanblue

6/9/21 8:13pm

I haven’t really though about it. Most seem fine. Do you agree that a line has

Jstak17

6/9/21 11:18pm

To your point. Excuse typos, it's hard to do on phone.

fldnstrm

6/10/21 12:26am

Thank you for your explanation. Definitely helps me understand what is going on

Jstak17

6/10/21 12:35am

Next time those guys go to a movie, I hope it's shown vertically. USE LANDSCAPE!

Cougar Junkie

6/9/21 7:47pm

I went on a deer hunting trip that was chase hunting - it certainly seemed fair

Squeegee

6/9/21 8:28pm

I don’t know Squeegee it still sounds like Jstak knows way more than you....

kotacoug

6/9/21 8:50pm

Afraid to respond directly to me? I think a pretty good portion of people

Jstak17

6/9/21 10:46pm

I think everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I enjoy hunting in many forms

cornellcoug

6/9/21 10:59pm

But surely you will admit that sending out dogs isn’t the most sportsman way to

Jstak17

6/9/21 11:05pm

RE: But surely you will admit that sending out dogs isn’t the most

Squeegee

6/10/21 8:32am

The article posted by squeegee appears to debunk your notion. At minimum it deserves a response.

fldnstrm

6/10/21 9:35pm

Is there a way to read more of the study? I can only get the first page. Anyhow,

Jstak17

6/11/21 9:44am

generally, if you have a .edu email address, you can log into JStor for free.

Squeegee

6/11/21 10:46am

Oh well, I don’t.

Jstak17

6/11/21 12:40pm

Keep posting you’re making a Yewt of yourself and it’s entertaining.

kotacoug

6/10/21 12:05am

Cry all you want.

Jstak17

6/10/21 12:21am

It doesn't sound like the big buck outsmarted you.

Eddie

6/11/21 9:51am

I’m curious what your feelings are on high fence hunting. To me it is all better

cornellcoug

6/9/21 9:13pm

This really isn’t my argument. I don’t have a problem with hunting or eating

Jstak17

6/9/21 11:30pm

Where in Idaho?

So it goes...

6/9/21 11:20pm

About 2 hours north of Boise past Idaho City

cornellcoug

6/10/21 9:41am

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