Jun 10, 2021
2:26:45pm
2:26:45pm
At what point did I say the Utes should feel no sort of upper hand? What I said is, as the OP stated, moral victories
based on “closeness of games” is irrelevant. The streak is the streak. There are no bragging rights here for BYU and there is no moral victory for weird or close losses.
A win is a win.
But you saying BYU didn’t “really beat” Utah in ‘98, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007, and 2009 is no better or more accurate than a BYU fan saying Utah didn’t really beat BYU in several of the games we lost since then.
It’s stupid either way. And it’s not reality.
But it’s also self loathing because although both sides of the “sometimes beating someone isn’t really beating them” view is lame, when you choose to use it only against your team it’s more.
So no, I’m not going to get forced into a position I don’t hold that Utah hasn’t been better than BYU. They obviously have. But leave it at wins and losses (which is what I would do and the OP is right about), or accept that they’re not as dominant as the W/L of the streak would suggest (which is what the linked post suggests). Both are true.
A win is a win.
But you saying BYU didn’t “really beat” Utah in ‘98, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007, and 2009 is no better or more accurate than a BYU fan saying Utah didn’t really beat BYU in several of the games we lost since then.
It’s stupid either way. And it’s not reality.
But it’s also self loathing because although both sides of the “sometimes beating someone isn’t really beating them” view is lame, when you choose to use it only against your team it’s more.
So no, I’m not going to get forced into a position I don’t hold that Utah hasn’t been better than BYU. They obviously have. But leave it at wins and losses (which is what I would do and the OP is right about), or accept that they’re not as dominant as the W/L of the streak would suggest (which is what the linked post suggests). Both are true.
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Nope. Your description of BYU’s wins as being not outright wins is exactly how BYU fans excuse some of the
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