Numbers do talk, but they can also mislead. I’m not trying to slander Stockton

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Jun 12, 2021
3:15:37pm

PHXSUNS31 Intervention Needed

Numbers do talk, but they can also mislead. I’m not trying to slander Stockton

He’s definitely an all-timer. I just don’t think we’ve seen a pg who had such complete command of the offense like CP3. He’s almost literally a perfect pick and roll pg. He has no weaknesses.

Now maybe Stockton could have elevated his scoring ability if he needed to, but that’s not something we really saw. So it kinda sucks to penalize Stockton for playing his whole career with Malone, but I kinda do. Stockton was never really the best player on his own team. Chris Paul has been the best player on his team every year except the 2 he spent in Houston.

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Big Suns fan here, but Jazz fans have convinced me...

lbmango

6/12/21 1:41pm

🙄

EtTuKalante

6/12/21 1:42pm

I think the Suns steal a game. Good post though.

DieHarder

6/12/21 1:43pm

Well stated

4mack

6/12/21 1:43pm

Feel better now?

ebv

6/12/21 1:45pm

Number 4 is dumb. Rest, spot on

LiveCoug

6/12/21 1:46pm

RE: Big Suns fan here, but Jazz fans have convinced me...

B Blue

6/12/21 1:46pm

RE: Big Suns fan here, but Jazz fans have convinced me...

Cougar TD

6/12/21 1:50pm

That sums it up nicely. 😉

StalwartBraveTrue

6/12/21 1:52pm

You suns fans are a sad bunch.

RalphWiggam

6/12/21 1:54pm

CP3 is better than Stockton, but not a discussion I want to have here, haha

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 2:48pm

He’s not. But it is cute you think that.

RalphWiggam

6/12/21 2:49pm

That might be the most ridiculous statement I've heard yet.

Ungoy

6/12/21 2:50pm

Easy there fella....CP3 isn't anywhere near Stockton's records...he'd have to

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

6/12/21 2:51pm

Those records are just one factor in the discussion.

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 2:58pm

So if if his stats/records aren’t as good then you must be referring to CP3’s

4mack

6/12/21 3:04pm

True...and Stockton is better than Magic in terms of stats...However,

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

6/12/21 3:06pm

Numbers do talk, but they can also mislead. I’m not trying to slander Stockton

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 3:15pm

Saying CP3 is better than Stockton is straight slander. LOL.

LiveCoug

6/12/21 3:16pm

😳

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 4:55pm

Stock scored and took over games when he needed to.

Ungoy

6/12/21 3:25pm

Admittedly I didn’t follow the nba as a whole as much back then

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 3:35pm

In the 90's, pick and roll was synonymous with Stockton and Malone.

Ungoy

6/12/21 3:47pm

Yes I’m aware..I’m not disputing that at all

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 3:57pm

Recency bias is a real thing

Medute

6/12/21 2:55pm

It truly is.

Ungoy

6/12/21 3:50pm

Would you have said this a year ago?? Or do you just really like him now that he

GhostRider

6/12/21 4:34pm

I would have said it before this year. It’s very possible that I have said it

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 4:40pm

He's definitely a great PG but you have some major recency bias.. CP3 has had

GhostRider

6/12/21 4:53pm

I think your majorly underrating CP3. I’d have him 3rd. Magic, Curry, CP3

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 4:54pm

Dude you are funny.. you think CP3 is better than Stockton, Iverson, Kidd, Gary

GhostRider

6/12/21 4:57pm

Yes I do

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 5:02pm

Ok you have fun over there

GhostRider

6/12/21 5:06pm

I’m really curious what your argument for guys like Kidd and Payton over CP3

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 5:30pm

I said before, I think CP3 is probably around Top 10-15.. I would put Kidd and

GhostRider

6/12/21 5:55pm

Ok, here you go:

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 6:19pm

Those are nice stats and he's a great player, but that really only tells half

GhostRider

6/13/21 10:50am

That’s why I included his all-nba/all-star/mvp awards as well

PHXSUNS31

6/13/21 11:07am

Ya he could really add some weight behind the argument depending on how these

GhostRider

6/13/21 11:23am

Great stats guy and nice accolades in terms of awards

Medute

6/12/21 5:06pm

What PG’s besides Curry, Magic, and Isaiah have even won a title?

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 5:26pm

I don’t want to spend the time looking but go ahead for me if you want

Medute

6/12/21 6:16pm

Fair enough, I did look and his post season success is less than the other guys

PHXSUNS31

6/12/21 6:38pm

I don’t think it should ever be considered the most important thing

Medute

6/12/21 6:45pm

Man. Who knew CB Suns fans were so obnoxious?

Ham

6/12/21 1:54pm

Who’s a Suns fan? Seriously? Didn’t think there were any

pink22

6/12/21 1:56pm

I'm a Jazz fan: CP3 is the difference...he has the Jazz's number...if CP3 goes

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

6/12/21 1:57pm

I think the jazz can exploit him defensively

1984coug

6/12/21 2:16pm

I hope so...but he has 2 turnovers and it's a "bad" game for him...he's been

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

6/12/21 2:30pm

Sorry- meant on the jazz offensive end

1984coug

6/12/21 2:55pm

CP3 is very good, it’s true.

Ham

6/12/21 2:25pm

You win the Billy Madison we are all dumber now POTD.

Nakedbootleg

6/12/21 2:00pm

Sounds good to me!

ReyOso

6/12/21 2:01pm

I’m surprised at how obnoxious Suns fans are. Not the arrogance of Lakers fans

Medute

6/12/21 2:20pm

RE: I’m surprised at how obnoxious Suns fans are. Not the arrogance of

The Pope

6/12/21 3:06pm

Suns fans seem to be a sensitive group.

6/12/21 2:39pm

Strangely...

EtTuKalante

6/12/21 2:42pm

Jazz fans still think michael jordan should’ve been called for a foul on Byron

buckeyecougarguy

6/12/21 2:50pm

RE: Jazz fans still think michael jordan should’ve been called for a foul

Ungoy

6/12/21 2:52pm

I corrected his name for him.

buckeyecougarguy

6/12/21 6:37pm

This but unironically. Jordan pushed off. And that is gospel.

CougarTailDevourer

6/12/21 3:50pm

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rmsenior

6/12/21 4:34pm

This isn’t fair. The 80’s love “The Valley” uniforms

DiamondMo

6/12/21 5:00pm

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