Thanks, I was trying to express this elsewhere, but this is a great metaphor.

Jun 17, 2021
3:03:35pm

ReyOso Intervention Needed

I've never been so depressed as to contemplate leaping from the burning building, but I've smelled smoke and felt the heat and been able to imagine how someone closer to the fire might be compelled to do so.

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Just heard that a dear friend of mine chose to take his own life this morning.

Joysey

6/17/21 2:31pm

So sorry to hear that. It is always a tragedy when someone goes this route.

SingleStrapBackpack

6/17/21 2:37pm

So sad! A permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Soy Celeste

6/17/21 2:41pm

Those people aren't dealing with things that feel temporary.

Lip Gallagher

6/17/21 3:33pm

I got a call like that about 20 years ago. It still hurts.

panacablue

6/17/21 2:43pm

Terribly sad. I'm sorry you and his family and friends have to go through this.

ebv

6/17/21 2:44pm

Thank you

Zip

6/17/21 2:47pm

Thanks, I was trying to express this elsewhere, but this is a great metaphor.

ReyOso

6/17/21 3:03pm

Exactly right

vegas guey

6/17/21 3:04pm

Only those who have stood ready

QBarrister

6/17/21 7:15pm

I don't think anger toward that person is an appropriate response

Zip

6/17/21 2:44pm

But is part of the process anyway...

WIGGIN

6/17/21 2:46pm

People grieve in their own ways. Not really your spot to tell him what way is appropriate to grieve.

Talker

6/17/21 2:47pm

It might not be appropriate, but is certainly is understandable. Especially when it's so recent. Give Joysey some time

SingleStrapBackpack

6/17/21 2:48pm

Anger is a normal response. Completely normal initial response to such a

valleus

6/17/21 2:52pm

Anger is absolutely normal. I had a brother take his own life many years ago and

m0resn0w

6/17/21 2:58pm

Maybe. Unfortunately, that doesn't fix anything.

Belboz

6/17/21 2:58pm

That is the most common response.

Everyman

6/17/21 3:10pm

Again, we are thinking of ourselves or others when we react with anger

Zip

6/17/21 3:17pm

Of course. That's sort of how it works.

Belboz

6/17/21 3:22pm

... but the person who ended their life wasn't being selfish?

crazY

6/17/21 3:52pm

Possibly, but that is for him to answer for

Zip

6/17/21 3:54pm

So wouldn't it follow that somebody has a negative emotional response when

crazY

6/17/21 4:19pm

Right. Feelings can be selfish. There are people who like pizza

Belboz

6/17/21 5:00pm

None of your answers relate

Zip

6/17/21 7:09pm

What's the point of telling someone his immediate emotional reaction is selfish?

Belboz

6/17/21 7:37pm

Is anger toward someone that just took their life a Godly emotion?

Zip

6/17/21 7:52pm

Sure, but now what?

Belboz

6/17/21 8:04pm

Ok, I will tell you a story

Zip

6/17/21 8:25pm

Immediate emotional response doesn't normally linger forever.

Belboz

6/17/21 8:43pm

I understand what you are saying.

Zip

6/17/21 8:54pm

The examples are not the point. Condescension being unhelpful is the point

Belboz

6/17/21 9:11pm

I pointed out a truth

Zip

6/17/21 9:59pm

The timing is bad.

Belboz

6/18/21 8:12am

Just zip it dude. Yes anger is a godly emotion. Literally hundreds of scriptural references.

Blue2thebone

6/18/21 12:06am

Actually no it isn't

Zip

6/18/21 3:48am

Hey Zip…..it

Blue2thebone

6/18/21 7:47am

Maybe not, but it's understandable. Close friend did the same thing. I also felt

BleedCougarBlue2

6/17/21 5:07pm

Sadness and devastation are one thing

Zip

6/17/21 7:15pm

and telling someone that immediate response is inappropriate is unhelpful

Belboz

6/17/21 8:20pm

Zip it

Blue2thebone

6/17/21 7:29pm

That's not an appropriate response either

Zip

6/17/21 7:53pm

Saying that to someone who is grieving, isn't helpful.

ditch

6/17/21 11:28pm

I would never begrudge anyone checking out

vegas guey

6/17/21 2:49pm

Brother, are you doing okay? Life is miserable and full of pain, but a regular

valleus

6/17/21 3:24pm

I felt this way for a long time. But I am 100% certain you can get better if you

chitownboy

6/17/21 3:49pm

More importantly, there is still joy to be had in your life. People will miss

cougaman

6/17/21 2:52pm

I had a buddy of mine commit suicide four years ago this month. It surprised everyone, and I mean everyone - his wife,

Texas Hammer

6/17/21 3:09pm

Often, the person committing suicide

Solomon Levi

6/17/21 3:43pm

I was talking to my cousin whos wife has severe depression. His bil committed

cougaman

6/17/21 4:01pm

That’s so hard

Solomon Levi

6/17/21 4:29pm

I once heard someone say that it is like telling someone that everything is ok

Bin01015

6/18/21 7:28am

Bingo

spugeddy24

6/18/21 11:35am

I agree with you 100%. I’ve never understood it because I’ve never felt that low

Nuke

6/17/21 3:59pm

A friend of mine put it best… the pain and sadness people think they are

Pretorian

6/17/21 4:03pm

I'm so sorry to hear this happened. The few times I have felt depressed myself,

Breaded Hamster

6/17/21 4:58pm

I am terribly sorry to hear this. Thoughts and prayers to you and your friend's

BleedCougarBlue2

6/17/21 5:03pm

That’s so hard! I’m so sorry.

robbieblue

6/17/21 5:20pm

I received a phone call from my dad back in 1988.

robbieblue

6/17/21 5:22pm

Thank you for saying this.

ColonelMustard

6/17/21 6:58pm

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ColonelMustard

6/17/21 6:58pm

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lefty

6/17/21 9:51pm

So sorry to hear. Very sad. This thread is indicative of the struggle

lefty

6/17/21 9:56pm

Many times suicidal people feel like others are better off without them. This could apply in this case. I see this a lot

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