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Jun 17, 2021
9:36:48pm

Hawk Talons All-American

I don’t buy it.

Sorry. BYU can compete on a national level in most sports.

Soccer
Volleyball
Basketball
Cross Country
Track

BYU’s athletic program is one of the best in the nation. Top 10 in the Sears Cup this year.

I don’t buy it that somehow we can’t compete on a high level in Football. It’s about access which leads to better recruiting, which leads to a top 15-20 program.

We are denied access. It’s one of the biggest shondas in all of sports.

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Hawk Talons

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Time

I don’t buy it.

Hawk Talons

6/17/21 9:36pm

Success breeds success and no shot as an indy is not as good as an 80% shot as

FieroCoug

6/17/21 9:37pm

What is this 80%/0% breakdown?

mulletino

6/17/21 9:40pm

Fascinating maths fur sure

AZPTCOUG

6/17/21 9:42pm

Since this is too complicated for yall look two posts down I simplified it a bit

FieroCoug

6/17/21 9:45pm

RE: If the AAC is the highest ranked G5 8 out of 10 seasons

AZPTCOUG

6/17/21 10:02pm

These are independent percentages and chances for different scenarios.

FieroCoug

6/17/21 10:06pm

RE: If the AAC is the highest ranked G5 8 out of 10 seasons

6/17/21 10:19pm

You really think if there was a 12 team playoff this year and we ran the table we would get left out?

molodyets

6/17/21 9:41pm

I'm basing this all on us running the table

FieroCoug

6/17/21 9:46pm

It would help. But our real problem is that we will never be able to recruit

Backcountry

6/17/21 9:41pm

Yet we can recruit athletes in almost every other sport?

Hawk Talons

6/17/21 9:50pm

There is a big difference in where soccer and volleyball athletes come from

johnnybyu

6/17/21 9:54pm

This guy gets it

LyleLanley

6/17/21 10:24pm

"Athletes"

Backcountry

6/17/21 10:08pm

Disagree, BYU can recruit athletes and has been lately, they just

1CougFan

6/18/21 7:18am

Totally disagree. I lived in Texas for a while and there are enough religiously

BlueTooth

6/18/21 1:49pm

RE: I don’t buy it.

squirrelyearl

6/17/21 9:44pm

Have you met the honor code?

LyleLanley

6/17/21 9:45pm

Few want to admit it but this is THE biggest reasons. IMO, we will

Traveshamockery

6/17/21 10:19pm

Sorry - there are many committed decent kids - they want P5 status.

Cswilliam01

6/17/21 10:59pm

I feel silly when we make this argument as it's been so long since we've proved

Incentivize

6/17/21 9:47pm

Except we were shown we would be left out before we lost.

FieroCoug

6/17/21 9:53pm

Yet, Vandy, Iowa St., Duke, deserve a seat at the table?

Hawk Talons

6/17/21 10:05pm

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AZbronco

6/18/21 3:58am

It does “sound” whiney but watching how P5 teams with horrible loses moved ahead

Blue chunks

6/18/21 9:28am

What is the difference between soccer/volleyball/CC/Track and football. I am not quite putting my finger on it

Clark Addison

6/17/21 9:50pm

Compare the $$$ disparity between Alabama women's soccer and BYU women's soccer

darkcoug

6/17/21 9:55pm

And the demographics of the kids that play club soccer and high school football

johnnybyu

6/17/21 9:57pm

Yup

Fake Gary Sheide

6/17/21 10:05pm

It’s about numbers and demographics as much as it’s about access, right now.

Zastava

6/17/21 10:17pm

Not true. They just all don’t want to be at BYU/live the honor code.

mulletino

6/17/21 11:14pm

I’m completely with you.

Cswilliam01

6/17/21 10:57pm

Well, the NACDA Learfield IMG College Directors' Cup, or Directors' Cup as it's

basman

6/17/21 11:29pm

I believe recruiting is difficult for a combination reasons. Academic requireme,

coastcat

6/18/21 7:32am

RE: I believe recruiting is difficult for a combination reasons. Academic

YandU

6/18/21 1:13pm

Except when the academics look at the athletes HS classes and grades and predict

coastcat

6/18/21 2:07pm

Winning buys access, simple as that.

LEDSFW

6/18/21 8:16am

Reminds me of a post I saw on here once by someone claiming that we should

deljdc

6/18/21 10:24am

It's football or everything else; Georgia spends $143M, BYU spends $50M

krindorr

6/18/21 1:31pm

There are 100k excuses for every single team out there to say they can’t

Pretorian

6/18/21 3:58pm

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