And why would you take at face value what one side of the negotiating table puts out in public?

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Jul 19, 2021
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Notre Dame AD says that they will play BYU and BYU gets to decide whether it's a

BlooCoog

7/19/21 3:05pm

Compelling reason: play in 2022 or play in 2042

Greg Kite's 'stache

7/19/21 3:06pm

exactly, although 2042 seems premature.

BYUheaven

7/19/21 3:09pm

This is exactly the reason

IgnoreThem

7/19/21 4:34pm

But why is Vegas acceptable for ND in 2022 but Provo is not?

zsmooth

7/19/21 7:07pm

Significantly larger payday for ND in Vegas, more interesting trip for fans, etc

Greg Kite's 'stache

7/19/21 8:56pm

In summary: there isn’t a single reason ND would prefer to play in Provo over LV

IgnoreThem

7/19/21 9:03pm

Well, except for the contract.

zsmooth

7/20/21 7:32am

Contracts are always up for negotiation

Greg Kite's 'stache

7/20/21 7:59am

Not sure you’ve disagreed with what I said, but sounds great.

zsmooth

7/20/21 8:20am

Not necessarily disagreeing, but I think you have a very fixed view of a "contract"

Greg Kite's 'stache

7/20/21 9:14am

I was just flippantly responding to your statement that “there isn’t a single reason” for ND to play in Provo.

zsmooth

7/22/21 6:55am

Now you are just looking for things to complain about.

Sea Chicken

7/19/21 3:07pm

If this is all true, and TH chooses neutral, he’s back to being dead to me

maxpowers

7/19/21 3:07pm

And why would you take at face value what one side of the negotiating table puts out in public?

kccougar

7/19/21 3:09pm

What if Neutral means 2022 and Home means 2035?

ZacSeljaas'Stache

7/19/21 3:10pm

Then…I’ll walk back what I said. And also retain that ND are blowhards

maxpowers

7/19/21 3:13pm

The problem is, just like every other issue fans like to complain about, is

Lance71

7/19/21 5:37pm

or what if neutral means a high-profile game in a place like Vegas, Glendale, or Jerry World?

SingleStrapBackpack

7/19/21 3:18pm

We're not the Globetrotters. A game in Provo > dime a dozen "destination" games

reddead

7/19/21 3:47pm

Great venues for fan access and exposure, the stated goals of independence.

Doogal McCougar

7/19/21 4:14pm

A national spotlight game in a huge venue against ND is the opposite of a dime-a-dozen destination game. That is a once

SingleStrapBackpack

7/19/21 4:18pm

That's the thing, though. Texas don't give a rip about where that game is held

reddead

7/19/21 4:27pm

BYU could have a legit showing. This would not be a high interest game for ND fans.

Cougstreak

7/19/21 9:31pm

The when is my guess. If BYU wants it sooner, then Neutral. If BYU is willing to wait 20 years, they'll get that home gm

Turnpike Lane

7/19/21 3:07pm

Could he mean “we’ll play BYU in Vegas, but it’s up to BYU if they want to call

Kavorka

7/19/21 3:08pm

Negotiation Tactic

Skidmark

7/19/21 3:10pm

On the other hand, couldn't Holmoe similarly publicly respond, "Let's do Provo"

The Dark Knight

7/19/21 6:06pm

We have a great fan showing in Vegas. I think it’s a win if we play ND in Vegas

JohnnyC

7/19/21 3:13pm

One reason to play it in Vegas would be to sell the TV rights for a lot more $

BYUMizzou

7/19/21 3:14pm

I really want that Provo game, but if I knew they took the Las Vegas location for a huge pay day game, then cool.

Turnpike Lane

7/19/21 3:49pm

Yes, money could be a compelling reason. I also wonder what winning the game

BlooCoog

7/19/21 4:51pm

But in Provo they get nearly all of the ticket revenue and concessions (plus they probably sell more season

HarlemCoug

7/19/21 4:56pm

^^^What BYUMizzou said^^^

cougarmeister

7/19/21 3:20pm

If its in Vegas it better be more like 80/20 since it was supposed to be Provo

CaliWG

7/19/21 3:25pm

But, but, but, I'm offended it's not in Provo. Notre Dame are a bunch crooks

Doogal McCougar

7/19/21 3:49pm

Even if we play them in Vegas and BYU gets more money for doing it, they are still crooks.

byuluvr

7/19/21 6:48pm

Attendance might even skew towards ND in Vegas

HiLife

7/19/21 4:06pm

Here's why:

Hypnotoad

7/19/21 3:26pm

I could see Holmoe choosing either option, both for very good reasons.

(Private)

7/19/21 3:37pm

I would imagine the potential payout of playing in Vegas vs Provo is a factor

morningcalmcougar

7/19/21 3:42pm

If it's in Vegas....there will be a lot of ND fans.

WJCougar

7/19/21 3:48pm

"one game that they get to decide where its played And were going to honor that"

stealth

7/19/21 3:59pm

As others have said, you okay neutral so you can fill immediate needs

gww687

7/19/21 4:51pm

It also sets a risky precedent that national programs can cajole us into playing

BlooCoog

7/19/21 4:56pm

RE: It also sets a risky precedent that national programs can cajole us into

gww687

7/19/21 6:35pm

Oh how nice of them to let us have a home game considering they owe us a home ga

Dr MoBYU

7/19/21 5:40pm

Please do Vegas, I want to go to Caesars Palace buffet again.

Ten_Hour_Drives

7/19/21 10:08pm

You can go to Vegas anytime, even if BYU isn’t playing a game there. It’s always open.

zsmooth

7/20/21 7:33am

I would happily take 2

IceBlue

7/19/21 10:12pm

I’d be ok with BYU playing ND 15 times in Las Vegas. But never in South Bend until they come to Provo.

SpiffCoug

7/19/21 10:17pm

How would you feel about 2 in Vegas then

IceBlue

7/19/21 11:39pm

That’s not exactly what he said.

Blue2thebone

7/20/21 7:49am

The reality is BYU is the party holding up fulfillment of the contract

NYC and Japan

7/20/21 12:18pm

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