I would imagine the potential payout of playing in Vegas vs Provo is a factor

Jul 19, 2021
3:42:47pm

morningcalmcougar Starter

I would love for them to come to Provo, but if TH can get a significantly better payout by playing in Vegas, why not? Vegas is essentially LES South, we always dominated the UNLV game when we played there, the same for the Las Vegas Bowl game.

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Notre Dame AD says that they will play BYU and BYU gets to decide whether it's a

BlooCoog

7/19/21 3:05pm

Compelling reason: play in 2022 or play in 2042

Greg Kite's 'stache

7/19/21 3:06pm

exactly, although 2042 seems premature.

BYUheaven

7/19/21 3:09pm

This is exactly the reason

IgnoreThem

7/19/21 4:34pm

But why is Vegas acceptable for ND in 2022 but Provo is not?

zsmooth

7/19/21 7:07pm

Significantly larger payday for ND in Vegas, more interesting trip for fans, etc

Greg Kite's 'stache

7/19/21 8:56pm

In summary: there isn’t a single reason ND would prefer to play in Provo over LV

IgnoreThem

7/19/21 9:03pm

Well, except for the contract.

zsmooth

7/20/21 7:32am

Contracts are always up for negotiation

Greg Kite's 'stache

7/20/21 7:59am

Not sure you’ve disagreed with what I said, but sounds great.

zsmooth

7/20/21 8:20am

Not necessarily disagreeing, but I think you have a very fixed view of a "contract"

Greg Kite's 'stache

7/20/21 9:14am

I was just flippantly responding to your statement that “there isn’t a single reason” for ND to play in Provo.

zsmooth

7/22/21 6:55am

Now you are just looking for things to complain about.

Sea Chicken

7/19/21 3:07pm

If this is all true, and TH chooses neutral, he’s back to being dead to me

maxpowers

7/19/21 3:07pm

And why would you take at face value what one side of the negotiating table puts out in public?

kccougar

7/19/21 3:09pm

What if Neutral means 2022 and Home means 2035?

ZacSeljaas'Stache

7/19/21 3:10pm

Then…I’ll walk back what I said. And also retain that ND are blowhards

maxpowers

7/19/21 3:13pm

The problem is, just like every other issue fans like to complain about, is

Lance71

7/19/21 5:37pm

or what if neutral means a high-profile game in a place like Vegas, Glendale, or Jerry World?

SingleStrapBackpack

7/19/21 3:18pm

We're not the Globetrotters. A game in Provo > dime a dozen "destination" games

reddead

7/19/21 3:47pm

Great venues for fan access and exposure, the stated goals of independence.

Doogal McCougar

7/19/21 4:14pm

A national spotlight game in a huge venue against ND is the opposite of a dime-a-dozen destination game. That is a once

SingleStrapBackpack

7/19/21 4:18pm

That's the thing, though. Texas don't give a rip about where that game is held

reddead

7/19/21 4:27pm

BYU could have a legit showing. This would not be a high interest game for ND fans.

Cougstreak

7/19/21 9:31pm

The when is my guess. If BYU wants it sooner, then Neutral. If BYU is willing to wait 20 years, they'll get that home gm

Turnpike Lane

7/19/21 3:07pm

Could he mean “we’ll play BYU in Vegas, but it’s up to BYU if they want to call

Kavorka

7/19/21 3:08pm

Negotiation Tactic

Skidmark

7/19/21 3:10pm

On the other hand, couldn't Holmoe similarly publicly respond, "Let's do Provo"

The Dark Knight

7/19/21 6:06pm

We have a great fan showing in Vegas. I think it’s a win if we play ND in Vegas

JohnnyC

7/19/21 3:13pm

One reason to play it in Vegas would be to sell the TV rights for a lot more $

BYUMizzou

7/19/21 3:14pm

I really want that Provo game, but if I knew they took the Las Vegas location for a huge pay day game, then cool.

Turnpike Lane

7/19/21 3:49pm

Yes, money could be a compelling reason. I also wonder what winning the game

BlooCoog

7/19/21 4:51pm

But in Provo they get nearly all of the ticket revenue and concessions (plus they probably sell more season

HarlemCoug

7/19/21 4:56pm

^^^What BYUMizzou said^^^

cougarmeister

7/19/21 3:20pm

If its in Vegas it better be more like 80/20 since it was supposed to be Provo

CaliWG

7/19/21 3:25pm

But, but, but, I'm offended it's not in Provo. Notre Dame are a bunch crooks

Doogal McCougar

7/19/21 3:49pm

Even if we play them in Vegas and BYU gets more money for doing it, they are still crooks.

byuluvr

7/19/21 6:48pm

Attendance might even skew towards ND in Vegas

HiLife

7/19/21 4:06pm

Here's why:

Hypnotoad

7/19/21 3:26pm

I could see Holmoe choosing either option, both for very good reasons.

(Private)

7/19/21 3:37pm

I would imagine the potential payout of playing in Vegas vs Provo is a factor

morningcalmcougar

7/19/21 3:42pm

If it's in Vegas....there will be a lot of ND fans.

WJCougar

7/19/21 3:48pm

"one game that they get to decide where its played And were going to honor that"

stealth

7/19/21 3:59pm

As others have said, you okay neutral so you can fill immediate needs

gww687

7/19/21 4:51pm

It also sets a risky precedent that national programs can cajole us into playing

BlooCoog

7/19/21 4:56pm

RE: It also sets a risky precedent that national programs can cajole us into

gww687

7/19/21 6:35pm

Oh how nice of them to let us have a home game considering they owe us a home ga

Dr MoBYU

7/19/21 5:40pm

Please do Vegas, I want to go to Caesars Palace buffet again.

Ten_Hour_Drives

7/19/21 10:08pm

You can go to Vegas anytime, even if BYU isn’t playing a game there. It’s always open.

zsmooth

7/20/21 7:33am

I would happily take 2

IceBlue

7/19/21 10:12pm

I’d be ok with BYU playing ND 15 times in Las Vegas. But never in South Bend until they come to Provo.

SpiffCoug

7/19/21 10:17pm

How would you feel about 2 in Vegas then

IceBlue

7/19/21 11:39pm

That’s not exactly what he said.

Blue2thebone

7/20/21 7:49am

The reality is BYU is the party holding up fulfillment of the contract

NYC and Japan

7/20/21 12:18pm

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