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Aug 2, 2021
11:09:47pm

BlackHawkCoug 3rd String

You don’t understand the California

Legislature if you think the absence of Prop 13 would result in lower taxes for new buyers. The only change would be higher taxes on older homeowners. The taxes on new buyers wouldn’t change at all. Sacramento never turns away a chance to tax Californians.

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BlackHawkCoug

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Last login: Dec 18, 2021
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California prop 13 doubled the tax I pay on the house I bought vs. the former

idacoug

8/2/21 10:52pm

RE: California prop 13 doubled the tax I pay on the house I bought vs. the former

TwinsRight

8/2/21 10:54pm

A colleague I know just bought an Eichler style home in Palo Alto, and he is going to pay many multiples more in

slappy

8/2/21 10:56pm

Your colleague will change his/her mind

BlackHawkCoug

8/2/21 11:01pm

It’s always easy to pass the buck to the next guy. Such a terrible solution with compounding knock on effects. If

8/2/21 11:05pm

You don’t understand the California

BlackHawkCoug

8/2/21 11:09pm

Right. California voters are dumb. Elect legislators that make good solutions. Don’t create terrible solutions to

8/2/21 11:11pm

Tell that to all those who voted for them! I assure you many of us didn’t.

calblue

8/2/21 11:36pm

Yes. The voters are incredibly dumb.

HONOMO

8/3/21 8:33am

Let me humbly suggest not all of we California voters are morons.

byujdmba

8/3/21 9:21am

This is exactly correct. Utah homeowners

BlackHawkCoug

8/3/21 10:10am

I agree with you. Particularly on prop 13.

HONOMO

8/3/21 5:47pm

That was flat out stupid. Let’s pay another 12 cents a gal just cause. Stupid.

TeeKaa

8/3/21 5:52pm

Prop 13 is not the answer. Lower tax rates. Problem solved

8/3/21 6:34pm

Doesn't say anything

Kerbouchard

8/2/21 11:57pm

Dont most states adjust the property tax every year?

JuicyJam

8/2/21 11:22pm

Yes and certainly every time they are sold

Nat Gas Man

8/2/21 11:31pm

This seems like a pretty big thing for you and the lender to both not be aware of

Mike Honcho

8/2/21 10:57pm

Lender is in Nevada. Does not do too many loans in Cali. I’ve never heard of

idacoug

8/2/21 11:07pm

Are you serious? Whoops! Kind of important to know how much property tax is

Kerbouchard

8/2/21 11:59pm

Rest assured that money will be put to good use

maxpowers

8/2/21 10:57pm

Tax is based on the sale price/ assessed value, no?

8/2/21 10:59pm

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OC_Ute

8/3/21 6:57am

I know it sucks, but Prop 13 did not double the tax. Prop 13 kept the previous owner's property tax from rising up to

dilbert

8/2/21 10:59pm

This. w/o you're worse off. Prop 13 protects the homeowner.

byujdmba

8/2/21 11:01pm

Did you read what I wrote? I said it doubled the tax that the former owner paid

idacoug

8/2/21 11:10pm

Yes, I understood what you said in your OP. I once lived the California dream, so I understand how Prop 13 works.

dilbert

8/2/21 11:35pm

Prop 13 saved people from losing their homes

bluelands

8/2/21 11:14pm

My parents bought house in 1976. Yes, prop 13 had good intentions, but it was

Kerbouchard

8/2/21 11:48pm

From $42K to $1.25M 74 to 84? I don't believe that. Where?

Kerbouchard

8/2/21 11:50pm

Los Gatos

bluelands

8/3/21 10:07am

That's not how property taxes work in Utah. If housing prices double, everyone

Megamind

8/3/21 7:16am

Obviously we aren't talking about Utah

bluelands

8/3/21 10:09am

This is much worse than prop 13. As government becomes more liberal and grows the tax accessor just decides to raise the

SolidBlue

8/3/21 11:55am

That's not what I said. The total amount to collect from everyone is not

Megamind

8/3/21 4:41pm

I got that. But your still subject to cost increase decided by politicians. Who by the way probably have some serious

SolidBlue

8/3/21 8:55pm

Yup. Prop 13 merely shifted the tax burden more heavily to recent buyers. It

Megamind

8/3/21 7:29am

The worst part about Prop 13 is that it makes raising taxes easier. Most people

Megamind

8/3/21 8:01am

That's not how passed propositions work in CA. ALL property owners pay the

TeeKaa

8/3/21 10:29am

Okay, but not all tax increases are ballot propositions. There are lots of

Megamind

8/3/21 4:29pm

Your first paragraph, last sentence is the most correct item in the post.

TeeKaa

8/3/21 5:05pm

The details of how California property tax are implemented are irrelevant. The

Megamind

8/3/21 7:11pm

Every comment you make screams you know less than zero about CA property tax

TeeKaa

8/3/21 8:58pm

Okay

Megamind

8/3/21 10:12pm

Prop 13 is an absolute nightmare and a perfect example of how government is so ineffective at solving problems

8/2/21 11:01pm

The CA government has been dysfunctional for a very long time. Prop 13 is just one example.

dilbert

8/2/21 11:09pm

Lower the tax rate

8/2/21 11:09pm

Amen to that, but also good luck with that.

dilbert

8/2/21 11:28pm

Prop 13 was a proposition by the residents. Both state and local govt opposed it

Jay Kay

8/3/21 8:04am

Exactly

8/3/21 8:09am

Yes, but it was in response to a problem that the state legislature refused to address. Eventually, the taxpayers

dilbert

8/3/21 8:36am

Why are you moving there? Lots of non-California options out there. I’d have to be paid an ungodly amount of money…

Bar7h

8/2/21 11:01pm

Voluntold.

idacoug

8/2/21 11:08pm

Best weather in the country but you will pay for it. Welcome to the club

gmoney7

8/2/21 11:39pm

Marginally better weather, and not even close to worth it. It was in the 80's.

Kerbouchard

8/2/21 11:51pm

Correction depending on location . HB is great

gmoney7

8/3/21 12:15am

Don’t forget to register your vehicles within 20 days to avoid additional fees

kcca

8/2/21 11:07pm

Ugh. Seriously?

idacoug

8/2/21 11:08pm

And you’ll pay a big fee if your car wasn’t

BlackHawkCoug

8/2/21 11:14pm

What?

idacoug

8/2/21 11:16pm

There are exceptions to that. This page explains fees and exemptions for the

kcca

8/2/21 11:21pm

Smog check baby! LOL

Kerbouchard

8/2/21 11:46pm

If you bought any cars out of state in the last year, CA will want sales tax.

Mitty

8/3/21 1:12pm

That is an incredibly naive conclusion. Everyone would know almost exactly

TeeKaa

8/2/21 11:35pm

Not really. I’ve moved a lot in my life. Prop 13 is not in any other state and

idacoug

8/3/21 5:51am

Everyone should have known what the taxes would be at X purchase price

TeeKaa

8/3/21 7:57am

Every state I have moved too, the property tax was the same as the seller paid

idacoug

8/3/21 11:33am

realtor & lender, yes. I don't believe the actual buyer gets a pass here either.

TeeKaa

8/3/21 12:18pm

No crap. That's the whole point of it. It freezes the tax for the buyers based

Kerbouchard

8/2/21 11:46pm

bad on you for not doing your homework.

OC_Ute

8/3/21 6:58am

I agree.

idacoug

8/3/21 7:46am

And bad on lender/realtor for not explaining property taxes

HONOMO

8/3/21 8:31am

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