If he didn't hit him with the crown, and it was to the side, then he didn't lead

Sep 19, 2021
2:01:21pm

cougaman Intervention Needed

with the crown. Looked like his head was to the side, and Hall slid into the contact looking worse. Can't call penalties on the defense when the runner moves his body after he initiates the hit.

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Rewatch on the game, we got really lucky ASU kept making stupid mistakes. Drops, penalties. They had chances.

Turnpike Lane CB Barometer

9/19/21 12:30pm

Agreed.

Blueto

9/19/21 12:30pm

They fumbled the opening kickoff also.

idcougarfan

9/19/21 12:30pm

Yes that game could have been very different

cheezedawg

9/19/21 12:31pm

Much better to see mistakes with a W in the books though.

rtNelson

9/19/21 12:31pm

How many penalties did they have total? The ESPN box score didn't show it

TNT

9/19/21 12:32pm

Did you have it on Mute? They had a running talley, and I think it ended at 16

cougaman

9/19/21 12:33pm

Seems when they said that the game wasn't over yet

TNT

9/19/21 12:33pm

It was at least 16.

cougaman

9/19/21 12:39pm

We had plenty of mistakes too. Good teams make you pay for mistakes. We did that

Samsonite

9/19/21 12:32pm

Yep exactly. Mistakes happen in every game. Good teams capitalize on the

ByuImaginesDragons

9/19/21 1:06pm

They had 16 penalties with more declined. 4 TOs. That’s more than just mistakes happen. That’s we had good fortune.

Turnpike Lane

9/19/21 3:24pm

BYU was very fortunate to beat what to me looked like a much more talented

cougaman

9/19/21 12:32pm

Yeah ASU more talented for sure

TNT

9/19/21 12:33pm

How do you eyeball talent? Foot speed, quickness? If that's it you're looking

basman

9/19/21 1:12pm

Honest question, do you disagree with my assessment that they were more talented

cougaman

9/19/21 1:31pm

Yes. I don’t think they were. You’re buying into past misconceptions

kotacoug

9/19/21 1:32pm

No, I'm trusting my eyes and what I saw on the field. The DL was getting pushed

cougaman

9/19/21 1:47pm

Everyone knows BYU wasn’t the more talented team. Fortunately for us that’s only

NWCoug

9/19/21 12:32pm

Another part is heart and dare I say grit, which our team has for sure.

ByuImaginesDragons

9/19/21 1:07pm

I think at a neutral site they beat us 7 out of 10 times

Covid-19

9/19/21 12:32pm

Thanks Vegas!

TNT

9/19/21 12:33pm

I also wonder how differently the game turns out if they call targeting on ASU.

BGRTHNUMEGO

9/19/21 12:33pm

This was a huge no call. Could have really changed the game

SUAVO

9/19/21 12:35pm

Just my opinion, but didn't look like targeting to me. Head went more to the

cougaman

9/19/21 12:40pm

Defender lead with the crown of the helmet,

kotacoug

9/19/21 1:34pm

Looked like his helmet was to the side and more into the shoulder. Only reason

cougaman

9/19/21 1:48pm

Doesn’t matter where his helmet was on contact it is the FACT that he lead with

kotacoug

9/19/21 1:50pm

If he didn't hit him with the crown, and it was to the side, then he didn't lead

cougaman

9/19/21 2:01pm

Have you watched the replay? I’ve rewound it 10 times just now. You’re wrong,

kotacoug

9/19/21 2:02pm

It was obvious. Defender put his head down well before he hit hall

SUAVO

9/19/21 2:05pm

I have watched the replay, and yes, I still disagree.

cougaman

9/19/21 3:20pm

RE: I have watched the replay, and yes, I still disagree.

SUAVO

9/19/21 3:32pm

Glad you can see so well through your blue homer lenses.

cougaman

9/19/21 3:39pm

I'm glad most of the national media looks through those same glasses

SUAVO

9/19/21 3:48pm

Look at the second replay. He has his head to the side, but Hall lowers his body

cougaman

9/19/21 3:51pm

This is from a veteran NFL referee. Most people agree with him. You can even

SUAVO

9/19/21 4:00pm

I think the way that hall leaned back after the defender started the contact

cougaman

9/19/21 4:14pm

Yes, he can anticipate it. Hall stops and braces for the hit. He doesn't make

SUAVO

9/19/21 4:17pm

And what happens if Hall decides to not slow down and runs him over. The

cougaman

9/19/21 4:30pm

Textbook targeting. One of the indicators of targeting is worded this way:

BGRTHNUMEGO

9/19/21 1:37pm

Also QB behind the LOS

kotacoug

9/19/21 1:42pm

You don't have to hit the helmet for targeting. Even though he speared his

SUAVO

9/19/21 2:04pm

We also managed to not get points twice when we were in field goal range.

bluescholar

9/19/21 12:34pm

Agreed, and I was wondering, does good fortune come to really good teams more?

4slyce

9/19/21 12:34pm

“Winning favors the team that makes the fewest mistakes” - Bobby Knight

CougieMcCougFace

9/19/21 12:35pm

That's pretty much what most of us expected.

shoganai

9/19/21 12:35pm

Yep. ASU reminded me of what BYU has done in previous BYU-UU games

Flyski

9/19/21 12:38pm

BYU has lost a lot of games doing the same thing ASU did last night...

Coug

9/19/21 12:38pm

That’s asu though. Massively undisciplined but super talented

Cougforgood

9/19/21 12:40pm

That is who they are. We beat them. Ot woula be like saying….

kotacoug

9/19/21 12:43pm

Our defense Gives the impression that the other team is always in it.

Bluedomination

9/19/21 12:43pm

We also screwed up one of those drives with crowd noise so it wasn’t all “luck”

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