Let's just keep getting dumber and lowering expectations...

Oct 15, 2021
10:29:23am

zonacougar Pronouns: He/Haw

NCAA task force recommends removing minimum standardized test scores in effort to advance racial equity

An NCAA task force recommended on Friday that incoming freshmen in Division I and II sports should no longer be required to meet minimum scores on standardized tests for initial eligibility.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/32405869/ncaa-task-force-recommends-removing-minimum-standardized-test-scores-effort-advance-racial-equity

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Let's just keep getting dumber and lowering expectations...

zonacougar Pronouns: He/Haw

10/15/21 10:29am

The soft racism of lowered standards.

Y-Zag

10/15/21 10:31am

I think it's time to call this hard racism. It isn't soft anymore.

SingleStrapBackpack

10/15/21 10:32am

I may think some things called racist aren't. I totally believe thinking

BYU71

10/15/21 10:36am

I also believe that stripping public life of standards is damaging to everybody regardless of skin color

SingleStrapBackpack

10/15/21 10:46am

They would say its the test that is racist

CaliforniaCougar22

10/15/21 10:59am

IQ is largely determined by genetics

HawkeyeCoug

10/15/21 12:38pm

Interesting that IQ is sinking. Genetics has to be the greatest determinant of

Forzaitalia

10/15/21 1:23pm

Thank you, domestic terrorist.

Genghis Spreads

10/15/21 6:08pm

How does allowing low academic standards prevent racism for anyone?

Schultz is back

10/15/21 10:35am

Your conclusions are at odds with the actual reasoning. I don't understand why.

Hotlanta

10/15/21 10:39am

Soo a few questions….

Pretorian

10/15/21 12:43pm

Good questions. Billions of dollars have been thrown at the problem for the past

Forzaitalia

10/15/21 1:55pm

"I don't know what other problems explain the low test scores"

j20

10/15/21 2:58pm

Pretorian

10/15/21 3:22pm

Can't disagree. The problem is how to get people to embrace traditional family

Forzaitalia

10/15/21 4:04pm

It’s really not even about religion though…

Pretorian

10/15/21 5:14pm

We’ll, step one… find out what is causing the low test scores…

Pretorian

10/15/21 3:21pm

But at some point you need to actually know how to do things. This would work

dYrtbYkerYder

10/15/21 5:31pm

Not that I totally disagree with you but I know the thinking is more in-line with not having to lower to help

Jimo Dashen

10/15/21 10:40am

This

Hotlanta

10/15/21 10:40am

Make exceptions for kids that come

BYU71

10/15/21 10:46am

Who decides who is disadvantaged? How much disadvantage counts?

Hotlanta

10/15/21 10:50am

I missed your comments before posting the same sentiments. No easy or perfectly

Forzaitalia

10/15/21 2:29pm

Define difficult circumstances. Low income? Single parent? Abusive father?

Forzaitalia

10/15/21 2:11pm

Doesn’t providing free access to practice test make way more sense than removing

Pretorian

10/15/21 1:53pm

Having lived in a branch/ward that was very inner city (Newark, NJ area) for

NYC and Japan

10/15/21 2:13pm

Ever heard of then 5 why’s? It works perfectly here..

Pretorian

10/15/21 5:16pm

Again, no disagreement. HOW do you do that? I think one way might to be to

Forzaitalia

10/15/21 5:29pm

This is seriously a good question, there has to be a way to line up incentives

Pretorian

10/15/21 6:37pm

Yes. It is basic 6 Sigma methodology and works. At least 50% of the voters will

Forzaitalia

10/15/21 5:38pm

Agree - but the problem so they have no thought (or care) on what to do to

truecougster

10/15/21 12:50pm

RE: How does allowing low academic standards prevent racism for anyone?

akbarishiwatsu

10/15/21 12:52pm

Signed, Joe Biden

Jacare

10/15/21 10:35am

Remember - if everyone is smart enough to figure out what’s going on, you’ll

truecougster

10/15/21 12:52pm

so, are they saying minorities can't hack it? or are they saying

bald man

10/15/21 10:42am

they're saying that Asians need help.

Belboz

10/15/21 10:49am

the argument I heard:

LeonMarek

10/15/21 10:57am

I hear code words for lack of parental support

bald man

10/15/21 11:04am

Where is there a single lie there? That's common sense

Hotlanta

10/15/21 11:19am

The lie, IMO, comes from the inability for all students to meet a certain level

LeonMarek

10/15/21 11:49am

I don't totally disagree with you. I don't see that as a 'lie' per se.

Hotlanta

10/15/21 11:51am

Biggest one I'm trying to focus on is (via my own statement):

LeonMarek

10/15/21 11:59am

I think as has been mentioned by others the support and systems vary greatly

NYC and Japan

10/15/21 2:22pm

Missed the second part of you comment.

LeonMarek

10/15/21 12:07pm

the goal of k-12 should NOT be getting you to college. part of the problem right

bald man

10/15/21 12:04pm

Sounds racist

cougarblue

10/15/21 10:42am

I mean, it's obviously not, but okay.

Hotlanta

10/15/21 10:45am

Seems pretty racist to assume certain races can't do well on a test

Ojiisan

10/15/21 11:00am

My African American boss who graduated from Carnegie Mellon thinks it's racist

AZ Coug

10/15/21 11:04am

I'm Native American and did well too. Imagine that. The notion we can't do well

cougarblue

10/15/21 11:10am

Literally nobody said that

Hotlanta

10/15/21 11:22am

I still think you should have been able to stand on a stool while testing

Belboz

10/15/21 2:37pm

You really see what you want to, I guess?

Hotlanta

10/15/21 11:18am

Still racist.

zonacougar

10/15/21 2:20pm

Except it is.

zonacougar

10/15/21 2:19pm

This comes to mind

AZ Coug

10/15/21 10:45am

RE: This comes to mind

Jacare

10/15/21 11:29am

NCAA: we are going to let the schools make their own decisions

Hotlanta

10/15/21 11:29am

It's cute you think racism is only one direction.

Jacare

10/15/21 11:31am

I don't, and thats not relevant here

Hotlanta

10/15/21 11:37am

except the "average" non athlete is not getting their schooling paid for like

byublue42

10/15/21 2:48pm

Europhobia and Anglophobia are racism

HawkeyeCoug

10/15/21 12:51pm

And the regular students? Just form the semi pro leagues already. like NBA.

ImuaKahuku

10/15/21 12:31pm

Minor leagues and development leagues are the real solution

HawkeyeCoug

10/15/21 12:57pm

Sooooo…NCAA Task Force thinks minorities are too stupid to pass basic tests?

Pretorian

10/15/21 12:34pm

Interesting to see how schools with academic standards compete w/those who don't

FMOCIE

10/15/21 12:51pm

Doesn't "equity" the way they use it mean equality of outcome? Shouldn't we be working then to make NCAA football and

mvtoro

10/15/21 12:52pm

Great idea, as long as students get the grades they earn, not the ones that are

TrueBlue67

10/15/21 12:52pm

If a kid can't pass a low threshold on a standardized test, then how do you think he "earned" any passing grade?

mvtoro

10/15/21 12:57pm

Plenty of Men are much smarter than shown in school

HawkeyeCoug

10/15/21 1:19pm

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Genghis Spreads

10/15/21 6:15pm

Since CB is anti-intellectual why are they so upset with this?

Genghis Spreads

10/15/21 1:39pm

This isn't even anti-intellectual in the first place

Hotlanta

10/15/21 5:38pm

Couple questions. 1. Not enough minorities in sports or not enough low scoring

ImuaKahuku

10/15/21 6:50pm

Totally support this. 20 yrs working with inner city kids.

Hyrum in Houston

10/15/21 8:06pm

So if they can’t pass minimum expectations of a standard test…

Pretorian

10/15/21 8:46pm

As mentioned

Hyrum in Houston

10/15/21 9:06pm

I’m on board with removing barriers like:

Pretorian

10/16/21 6:38am

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