Absolutely not. I've told my team I expect nothing while they're gone.

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Jan 14, 2022
11:58:08am

mottman All-American

Time off is their time. They don't live to work. Work doesn't own them.

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While on PTO, does your company expect you to still call in for staff meetings/ group meetings?

Texas Hammer Amazon’s favorite customer

1/14/22 11:35am

Sounds pretty messed up

Vincent's Picks

1/14/22 11:38am

Was it a personal invitation, or just a mass group invitation, maybe he didn't

BYUFootballisBack

1/14/22 11:38am

Personal. When I didn’t join, he called me directly from Teams to invite me to join.

Texas Hammer

1/14/22 11:40am

Barf

BYUFootballisBack

1/14/22 11:43am

Is he a bad person?

NacoCoug

1/14/22 11:44am

He’s actually a pretty good boss. I rarely speak with him one-on-one. He pretty much lets me do my thing.

Texas Hammer

1/14/22 11:48am

No. That sounds like a terrible culture.

Skeptical Optimist

1/14/22 11:38am

No way. Your boss seems like a twit.

NacoCoug

1/14/22 11:39am

He has poor judgement and lacks a backbone.

Q-grr

1/14/22 12:38pm

Yeah... that's not a healthy company culture IMO

letthewookieewin

1/14/22 11:39am

When you're off, you're off. Period end of sentence.

VACOUGFAN

1/14/22 11:43am

RE: When you're off, you're off. Period end of sentence.

Baron

1/14/22 11:44am

I've heard PTO referred to as Pretend Time Off in my company

Captain Stubing

1/14/22 11:44am

That's likely a violation of policy. I usually have to work on PTO because of my role but work that

Baron

1/14/22 11:44am

Somewhere in between. People call in sometimes to important meetings (not mere

RGGeemer

1/14/22 11:45am

Not normal. Not healthy. Needs to be called out and corrected.

shoganai

1/14/22 11:46am

I don't believe legally you're required to use PTO as an exempt employee if

whirl

1/14/22 11:49am

I think it depends on the state

BYUFootballisBack

1/14/22 11:52am

Depends on the policy.

cracka

1/14/22 12:24pm

Absolutely not. I've told my team I expect nothing while they're gone.

mottman

1/14/22 11:58am

I tell my guys the exact same thing.

VACOUGFAN

1/14/22 2:47pm

that is messed up and archaic. Good luck finding and retaining talent with a cu

Mayor of Cougartown

1/14/22 12:06pm

That shouldn’t be normal, but depending on the role is more/less common

SurreyDad

1/14/22 12:08pm

Nope, dealbreaker

PortlandCoug

1/14/22 12:15pm

That is completely inappropriate. You should definitely subtract out the time

BLT-Coug

1/14/22 12:33pm

Yeah that's messed up. I would respond to my bosses thank you email and let him know that it was BS and you won't be

supertux

1/14/22 12:37pm

You better use some good tact while doing it. Your company has turned into one

Q-grr

1/14/22 12:43pm

Sounds like a culture developed from a fear of getting laid off. A group should

Q-grr

1/14/22 12:37pm

Definitely something HR should be handling for the company as a whole.

ochobeeguy

1/14/22 1:02pm

If I were in your situation, I would simply let them know I was going to be some

BYU Grounds

1/14/22 12:41pm

Your boss is clueless

WDaddy

1/14/22 12:48pm

Feels like the new culture is to try to prove your worth by being available 24/7

ochobeeguy

1/14/22 12:57pm

That's a lame reason to come off of PTO. I have to call in at times on PTO

tevye

1/14/22 1:40pm

my company WANTS me to not work but the reality is that I rarely have anyone

fattycoug

1/14/22 3:26pm

Boooo! No way. There's a reason for the TO in PTO. It's not out-of-the-office-but-on-the-clock.

BlooGeek

1/14/22 4:25pm

When I was billing hours at a law firm yes, now that I’m in the house generally no

JOPE

1/14/22 5:15pm

Is Lynn ok with this arrangement?

BlooGeek

1/14/22 5:25pm

That's BS

Mitty

1/15/22 7:59pm

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