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1984coug
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I don't understand why BYU has a mens swimming and diving team instead of
Iron Coug
1/13/22 11:15am
deleted previous, good thought
Incentivize
1/13/22 11:18am
How many scholarships is each of those sports allocated when NCAA sanctioned?
SpudNut
1/13/22 11:23am
I think it is 9.9 scholarship for both mens soccer and swimming and diving.
Iron Coug
1/13/22 11:24am
Men's swimming gets 9.9, women's get 14
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
1/13/22 11:27am
So scholarship allocation is the same.
Iron Coug
1/13/22 11:40am
A few thoughts
Joe Banks
1/13/22 11:24am
Yea athletics used to be part of being a well rounded student. It's gotten
Kajdin
1/13/22 11:27am
Perhaps. But we always focus on FB/BB and crazy HS football recruits and their
cougfanz
1/13/22 11:36am
Good points...
wilsdad
1/13/22 11:30am
Interesting thoughts. Thanks.
Iron Coug
1/13/22 11:35am
I don’t know of BYU soccer developing even an MLS-level player. But that doesn’t
The Chelsea Dagger
1/13/22 12:08pm
Seems like an NCAA sanctioned sport would be a huge appeal to that level of
cougfanz
1/13/22 12:18pm
Especially if you can attract a few foreigners outside of their academy systems
The Chelsea Dagger
1/13/22 1:44pm
Swimming should be dropped because it’s a drain. So costly. mens soccer would be
SouthernBlueBlood
1/13/22 4:05pm
its actually not as expensive because the school offsets cost of the facility
1984coug
1/13/22 7:22pm
Who did you talk to that doesn't want to be D1?
YSMACK
1/13/22 5:49pm
It’s been a few years, maybe the perspective has changed.
Joe Banks
1/13/22 6:00pm
Profitability is an indicator that it contributes to the college environment and
Mises
1/13/22 7:36pm
I worked closely with Men’s soccer about 10 years ago. At that time, they
Delicate Genius
1/13/22 8:20pm
I think it comes down to understanding the sport...I live and breathe swimming
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
1/13/22 11:26am
I was not trying to be snarky. I honestly don't understand why swimming and
Iron Coug
1/13/22 11:39am
And I've got to think that BYU womens soccer does pretty well revenue wise. I
Iron Coug
1/13/22 11:56am
No, I get it...I'm guessing the women's soccer team does all right...but truly
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
1/13/22 12:36pm
I would vote for Wrestling over Soccer as as replacement.
Qhall
1/13/22 12:24pm
Sounds like we should have a competition to see which sport is more MANly,
Pangare
1/13/22 1:09pm
Wrestling and Hockey are the clear front runners here. In the fight, can the
Iron Coug
1/13/22 1:40pm
That's not a fair fight. None of those weenies could compete against wrestlers.
Schultz is back
1/13/22 5:12pm
Logic checks out... BYU needs a wrestling program.
Pangare
1/14/22 8:25am
Can I get an AMEN!!!
AzCugrFan
1/13/22 1:55pm
I would vote for Rugby, then men's gymnastics. Wrestling would be my 3rd choice.
Les IsMore
1/13/22 4:33pm
We already have ballroom dancing. Why do we need men's gymnastics?
Schultz is back
1/13/22 5:29pm
I grew up going to BYU wrestling camps. Wrestlers got the shaft with Title IX
dryflycoug
1/13/22 5:53pm
Swimming was at most universities long before kids started playing soccer in
Utefaninenemyland
1/13/22 1:26pm
By the way, the swimming pool fiasco is absolutely a Holmoe mistake...he's been
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
1/13/22 1:47pm
That pool was gone years before they built the new high school
Nat Gas Man
1/13/22 5:09pm
Even better reason to rebuild it
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
1/13/22 6:13pm
I’m with you, but not because of the revenue argument
stoils
1/13/22 1:56pm
They could double the size of the soccer stadium and sell it out consistentlyIMO
teancum
1/13/22 2:00pm
Another problem with soccer is that there just aren't that many NCAA teams.
Tare
1/13/22 2:02pm
Only 205 teams
teancum
1/13/22 2:11pm
Compared with only 23 NCAA Div 1 Men's Volleyball teams.
Les IsMore
1/13/22 4:38pm
Keep men's soccer in the WCC then - or the Pac. There are 208 D1 mens soccer
Iron Coug
1/13/22 2:15pm
Most conferences have a minimum sponsored sports requirement
Bobmarleyjr
1/13/22 2:28pm
True, but there are lots of exceptions out there too. See UVU wrestling in the
Iron Coug
1/13/22 3:29pm
Yes but when you’re trying to be accepted you want to be compatible as possible
Bobmarleyjr
1/13/22 3:33pm
Exactly. We're not going to start a new sport and put it in some random conf.
Schultz is back
1/13/22 5:46pm
The BIG12 has men's soccer, if only we could get sports into that conference...
Sharper
1/13/22 9:48pm
The WCC, Big West, WAC, and Pac 12 all sponsor D1 men's soccer. Regional
The Chelsea Dagger
1/13/22 2:50pm
I haven’t checked but pretty sure more conferences sponsor Mens swimming
Bobmarleyjr
1/13/22 2:11pm
Would love to have it all, but definitely should choose soccer over swim/dive.
Mitty
1/13/22 2:48pm
The decisions were made a long time ago when the landscape was very different.
shoganai
1/13/22 2:48pm
And wrestling!!!!!
Blue chunks
1/13/22 4:31pm
Or Rugby.
oldrugger
1/13/22 4:54pm
The pool is the right length for NCAA not for Olympics. Nobody wanted to pay to
Nat Gas Man
1/13/22 5:10pm
When it was happening the rumors on CB were that the money was there but BYU
Schultz is back
1/13/22 5:41pm
One Steve Young..who had a niece who was a swimmer...was willing to throw big
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
1/13/22 6:18pm
the pool is arguably one of the best available in the intermountain region
1984coug
1/13/22 7:27pm
This is incorrect. There are high school’s that have better pool’s than BYU.
Utefaninenemyland
1/14/22 11:45am
Which high schools in Utah?
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
1/14/22 11:55am
Olympus for one. Skylines new pool will be better. Hunter’s was better 30 years
Utefaninenemyland
1/14/22 12:03pm
False, false and false. Olympus has a nice facility for a high school.
shaggy
1/14/22 12:15pm
I should clarify not speaking about all the extras just the competition pool
Utefaninenemyland
1/14/22 12:24pm
You're a Ute fan, of course you don't like BYU's facilities- BYU has actual
1984coug
1/14/22 1:08pm
and when was the last time you watched a meet at BYU? It is set up as surround
1984coug
1/14/22 1:14pm
Watched 5A finals a couple ago Also said in previous post the U’s facilities
Utefaninenemyland
1/14/22 1:28pm
Since you’re a D-1 swimmer, then you know
stoils
1/14/22 3:05pm
Why have seating at all? I’m not a D1 swimmer, I was a D1 swimmer. Now I’m a
Utefaninenemyland
1/14/22 5:47pm
If you were a D1 swimmer then there’s no way you’d say a hs pool in utah is
1984coug
1/14/22 11:38pm
I was involved with the pool project, and involved with those that swam
1984coug
1/14/22 4:09pm
Look, I'm no fan of what TH did to the BYU pool but it's still way better than
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
1/14/22 12:25pm
Where does Man View have a pool. If you are referring to the Orem Rec Center
Nat Gas Man
1/14/22 1:33pm
What I don't understand is why Title IX operates under the fiction that men and women are equally interested in
Bob Vance
1/13/22 5:34pm
yes they do have a correct length pool- NCAA competes in 25 yards, BYU
1984coug
1/13/22 7:21pm
I’m a former BYU swimmer, English Channel swimmer, Utah Sports HOF member
shaggy
1/13/22 7:51pm
I know a former BYU swimmer really well, he's said much of the same
1984coug
1/13/22 8:05pm
But soccer is an Olympic sport too. Just saying. Swimming is one of the most
Iron Coug
1/13/22 9:34pm
How is swimming “elitist” or expensive compared to other sports?
1984coug
1/13/22 9:36pm
Speedo’s are expensive.😂
Utefaninenemyland
1/14/22 12:49pm
There are just at many people at BYU as equally passionate about cross-stitching
stoils
1/13/22 11:35pm
Having the women's team, the men's team may be able to share expenses re
Socrates Johnson
1/14/22 11:22am
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