Of course, Grayson Allen counts. Like him or hate him, he's a decent player that could have helped the Jazz a lot this year. He's still in the league and getting better each year. More than you can say about a lot of first round picks.

I guess you don't know who Brandon Clarke is huh? Memphis got him for trading the Jazz pick and a 2nd round pick.

The Jazz gave up a LOT more for Conley than just a low lottery pick.

Btw, one of those vets starts for your team in case you forgot.