Only if you generalize. Go rewatch early games from last season, for example.

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Abe Froman

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Tuiaki apologists: do you defend him because you truly believe he is a solid DC?

TheMediator

6/22/22 12:08pm

There are two main things

Indy Coug

6/22/22 12:12pm

The inability of the defense to get off the field is obvious to anyone who

Hinta

6/22/22 12:19pm

Only if you generalize. Go rewatch early games from last season, for example.

Abe Froman

6/22/22 12:23pm

It wasn't just a problem last year.

Hinta

6/22/22 12:30pm

Which games in which seasons are you willing to admit the Defense got off the

Abe Froman

6/22/22 12:37pm

It's almost as if the opponent has a bunch of FBS/P5 caliber players and coaches whose

Byron McNertney

6/22/22 12:32pm

In most games there has been a sharp contrast between Bronco's defense and

Goliath

6/22/22 12:34pm

Too bad we never got to see a Bronco defense last year so we could compare.

All-American

6/22/22 1:05pm

I bet the BYU offense could have piled up points on Bronco's defense last year.

NYC and Japan

6/22/22 1:12pm

I bet Tyler Allgeier would put up 5 TDs against Bronco's defense last year

Machiavelli

6/22/22 2:04pm

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Machiavelli

6/22/22 2:02pm

On that 21-4 record

TeeKaa

6/22/22 3:06pm

RE: On that 21-4 record

Indy Coug

6/22/22 3:46pm

I said zero about 21.

TeeKaa

6/22/22 3:57pm

With all of our NFL talent it's amazing we EVER lose games. #badcoaching

Blueto

6/22/22 3:54pm

This is what I'm talking about, people unwilling to blame anything but the defense

krindorr

6/22/22 4:43pm

I agree 100% the O lost the Donkey's game. Ugly ugly game of turnovers

TeeKaa

6/22/22 4:56pm

Let's look at the 4 losses from the last two years

krindorr

6/22/22 5:18pm

Baylor was better against our defense

TeeKaa

6/22/22 7:43pm

RE: Baylor was better against our defense

krindorr

6/22/22 9:30pm

Or let's take a look at our win against Arizona St

krindorr

6/22/22 5:08pm

I believe he is better than idiot posters think

Archaea

6/22/22 12:12pm

He is better than some posters think. He's worse than other posters think.

No touching

6/22/22 12:30pm

Archaea not calling for a coach to be fired? #WorldMustBeEnding

Sid Vicious

6/22/22 1:09pm

This to me is the most telling sign that the complaining is out of control- both

Bill

6/22/22 2:02pm

I defend him because he is a solid, not great DC.

Blueto

6/22/22 12:15pm

I especially love not blitzing on 3rd and long.

MarylandFan

6/22/22 12:29pm

RE: I especially love not blitzing on 3rd and long.

oremut

6/22/22 2:55pm

his game plan vs Utah was very good. He hasn't been consistent though...

icecougar

6/22/22 12:49pm

Option 3: Having Elite D is harder than many on here make it sound. Blaming the

kosmokramer

6/22/22 12:16pm

Tuiaki's results are typical of most DCs in BYU history.

shoganai

6/22/22 12:17pm

Don't forget to add that Bronco put the best players on defense and had some truly underwhelming offenses.

Byron McNertney

6/22/22 12:37pm

That is rewriting history.

coolblue

6/22/22 2:46pm

Not speaking about Tuiaki specifically, but I'll defend any coach against

StantonMac

6/22/22 12:18pm

Generally, I think that complaining about coaches on an Internet discussion

Skeptical Optimist

6/22/22 12:22pm

He’s not peak Joe Lee Dunn or peak Monte Kiffen and at times I have wanted to

gwalker

6/22/22 12:27pm

I just tend to be more optimistic than not when it comes to stuff like this.

Eddie

6/22/22 12:29pm

I defend him at times because the criticism has become disproportionate

krindorr

6/22/22 12:31pm

I defend the situation. He’s the DC, and I don’t see that changing.

BYURider

6/22/22 12:33pm

Does the scheme impact the talent that goes to Provo? I have to believe it does.

crack

6/22/22 12:35pm

I don’t think so. Winning matters most.

BYURider

6/22/22 6:00pm

The arrogance of people to think they know more than Tom is off-putting to say the least.

HarlemCoug

6/22/22 12:36pm

Whatever. CB is full of guys who know more about defense and the players available than Kalani does.

Byron McNertney

6/22/22 12:39pm

Just curious what Tom has to do with this. Are the assistant coaches hired/fired

crack

6/22/22 12:46pm

Don’t you mean Kalani apologists? Tuiaki doesn’t exist in a vacuum, and it’s

Abe Froman

6/22/22 12:43pm

My biggest issue is how married to his scheme he is. And how conservative play calling often is.

Turnpike Lane

6/22/22 12:43pm

I don't think we should ever eat our own. We rip our own to shreds. not good.

nybyblue

6/22/22 4:01pm

Craziness. How much more obvious can it be that our D is not doing well?

chazen

6/22/22 11:48pm

It's obvious you really didn't bother to read the post you replied to

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