What it says a lot of plays/possessions doesn't necessarily equal success and

Jun 23, 2022
8:30:26am

palangi All-American

that there's actually a higher correlation of success for teams with fewer plays/possessions per game. Very high level of course.

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A-Rod said Offenses avg 13.5 posessions per game. BYU avgeraged about 10

CougarCanuck76

6/22/22 8:39pm

It’s a major problem.

rivercitycoug

6/22/22 8:40pm

Offense had a significantly better Points scored per possession compared to

kotacoug

6/22/22 8:46pm

The offensive tempo is a small part of it too

I'mBatman

6/22/22 8:46pm

It has to to keep the defense off the field.

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 11:15am

This is the biggest indictment of Tuiaki

macdizzle

6/22/22 8:49pm

But Tuiaki thinks nothing is wrong

Heath Squashwell

6/22/22 8:49pm

Like ive said since day 1. ..

CarolinaCoug

6/22/22 8:51pm

You said that after we gave up 16 points to UA in Phoenix 2016? Link?

mulletino

6/22/22 8:53pm

I believe he actually said it the day Tuiaki was announced as Kalani's DC

slatecoug

6/23/22 12:19am

It was actually the day Tuiaki was born…

Refugee

6/23/22 4:13am

Not to mention that having the defensive players on the field for more plays leads to more injuries.

ManicBlue

6/22/22 8:53pm

Football has rotating possessions.

Blueto

6/22/22 8:58pm

You can play that game both ways. 10 possessions when average is 13.5? Not good.

mulletino

6/22/22 9:00pm

How do you know? What is good? Winning? Would more possessions mean more

Blueto

6/22/22 9:03pm

The offense averages more points per possession. So…yes.

mulletino

6/22/22 9:07pm

Listen to what you are saying… if our offense is more efficient at scoring

The_Cuss

6/23/22 12:22am

Just like in basketball

akbarishiwatsu

6/23/22 1:10am

Take out the cupcake 2020 season and get back to me.

YbeatsU

6/23/22 7:59am

Ahh yes th2 covid hs season to support tuiaki. The next 3 y3ars will

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 11:19am

Get help. Gleefully rooting for your team to fail because of your hatred

Blueto

6/23/22 1:05pm

I am not rooting for byu to fail

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 8:10pm

Limiting possessions because your offense doesn't leave the field = good

Corn Pop

6/22/22 9:03pm

If the defense is bad do you want to give teams more possessions?

Blueto

6/22/22 9:04pm

If your offense averages more points per possession then it’s pretty obvious.

mulletino

6/22/22 9:11pm

I'd compare it to a basketball team that runs a slow it down four corner

Blueto

6/22/22 9:15pm

We don't have a ball control offense. We have a defense that can't get off the

Corn Pop

6/22/22 9:22pm

The comp you seek is aemy air force, navy. Their defenses often

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 11:27am

If they are scoring on a majority of their drives, it makes no difference. Well,

Corn Pop

6/22/22 9:18pm

Explain 21-4 with your theory

Blueto

6/22/22 9:26pm

That's easy. Mostly good offense mixed with bad opponents in 2020, plus

Corn Pop

6/22/22 9:33pm

You don't have many double digit win seasons while having a "terrible" defense,

basman

6/22/22 9:37pm

I think the bigger point here is playing to strength. When your O is your strength you get them the ball more.

Turnpike Lane

6/22/22 9:52pm

'08 OU - Went to the national title game with a defense that gave up:

Corn Pop

6/22/22 9:53pm

You do during a worldwide pandemoc vs hs teams..and then the

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 11:35am

Except the defense specifically won games. Utah, ASU, WSU, USC all games won by

Blueto

6/22/22 10:12pm

when you limit the number of possessions, it isn't a good argument to say you

here's to hoping

6/22/22 10:41pm

🤣🤣🤣🤣Our defense won games.🤣🤣🤣. I needed that.

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 11:39am

2020: Strength of schedule; 2021: weak pac 12 and an elite offense.

here's to hoping

6/22/22 10:27pm

Holy crap..take each game and analyze it. We played crappy inferior

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 11:32am

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slatecoug

6/23/22 12:32am

Look at the number of plays per game of cfb teams and tell me if you want to be

palangi

6/22/22 11:00pm

I wouldn't mind being number 12 on the list

here's to hoping

6/22/22 11:04pm

Yes. Definitely scoring really fast and a lot of 3 and outs is the best scenario

palangi

6/22/22 11:23pm

I don't know why more teams don't just do that

here's to hoping

6/22/22 11:33pm

But also #119. I'm not sure this list really tells us anything, by itself.

squidmark

6/23/22 6:02am

What it says a lot of plays/possessions doesn't necessarily equal success and

palangi

6/23/22 8:30am

We dont all play the same schedule sobits not a good stat

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 11:47am

You could say that about any stat

palangi

6/23/22 12:14pm

I noticed that Georgia and Cincy, #1 and #5 in Scoring D were also 2 of the lowest for Plays Run

slatecoug

6/23/22 12:34am

There's so much missing from that stat. Which is why its not a good one to

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 11:50am

In your opinion

slatecoug

6/23/22 12:12pm

The offense Has to be methodical to keep our defense off the field

CarolinaCoug

6/23/22 11:46am

I suppose it's a credit to our zone D on 3rd and 3..

SausageKing

6/22/22 11:17pm

If teams have a lot of 3 and outs, and BYU's offense didn't have a lot, then

OldFogey

6/23/22 5:56am

There is only one reason to limit possessions:

Hazzard

6/23/22 9:29am

Wouldn’t the offense’s time of possession be another important factor?

Hyrum in Houston

6/23/22 10:10am

It's because Tuiaki gets praised for his low points given up

Hill4Heisman

6/23/22 10:45am

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