I always say, name me 1 win last year that was a needle moving win? They reply Oregon, and I remind them that oregon finished the year loosing 3 out of their last 4. Then they'll say, yea, but they beat Ohio State, and I say say, yea, and they lost to 3-9 Stanford. Then the clincher, I remind them that the pukes played 4 teams that finished ranked in the top 25, and lost to 3 of them. And then their reply....yea, but.....
they had a great game against OSU, a OSU that had 26? scholarship players sitting out, including several starters.
They really beat no one last year.