Have you thought through the logic of saying Utah sucks?

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Sep 21, 2022
1:44:24pm

SurfCoug Starter

Have you thought through the logic of saying Utah sucks?

Utah has won 9 of the last 10 games played between the two teams. To say that Utah sucks, when they have dominated BYU for a long time, necessarily means that BYU sucks even more. You can say that Utah fans suck, the school sucks, but a general statement that Utah football (which is the topic of the post) sucks is stooping to the level of an SDSU fan (which are arguably worse than Utah fans).

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SurfCoug

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Thoughts on Holker from a Ute fan.

ImaFBfan

9/21/22 1:01pm

Utah sucks.

Mr. Scoobs

9/21/22 1:02pm

Both things are true.

byulover

9/21/22 1:05pm

Have you thought through the logic of saying Utah sucks?

SurfCoug

9/21/22 1:44pm

Wait, I love this game!

9/21/22 2:23pm

Utah SUCKS

Sandy Lyle

9/21/22 2:41pm

He came here with a legit and thoughtful discussion.

9/21/22 1:48pm

My scoobs had the most appropriate reply whenever anybody mentions their ute

Sandy Lyle

9/21/22 2:41pm

Nope. Just perpetuates the stereotypes of byu fans

9/21/22 2:54pm

Where Grimes ends up next season?

sammycoug

9/21/22 1:02pm

ASU needs a new HC...

BYUtka

9/21/22 1:03pm

Grimes could do well there.

TailgateU

9/21/22 1:21pm

I think he may be a candidate for some head coaching positions.

ImaFBfan

9/21/22 1:08pm

Who’s Utah’s QB next year?

DieHarder

9/21/22 1:03pm

I am not sure.

ImaFBfan

9/21/22 1:07pm

I would guess it's Rising. He doesn't seem to be a big NFL prospect.

Jeffacka

9/21/22 1:11pm

Very possible. I do not see him a a top round NFL pick either.

ImaFBfan

9/21/22 1:17pm

Leaving midseason is unequivocally bad for his NFL career. NFL scouts will treat

rcbyufan

9/21/22 1:06pm

Burrows, Hurts and many others left their schools and have done quite well.

ImaFBfan

9/21/22 1:14pm

LOL at your understanding of my argument. I don't feel like repeating it.

rcbyufan

9/21/22 1:17pm

Honest question

Pioneercoug

9/21/22 1:49pm

The key is your very last clause: "his measurables don't change by transferring"

rcbyufan

9/21/22 2:03pm

So Jalen Hurts transferring to OK and starting instead of staying

Pioneercoug

9/21/22 2:18pm

LOL. Hurts got benched. And he stayed the whole year (EVEN STILL). That was

rcbyufan

9/21/22 2:25pm

you didn't answer my question.

Pioneercoug

9/21/22 2:28pm

I'll try to speak slowly. If Holker got benched after Oregon and he stuck it out

rcbyufan

9/21/22 2:34pm

"**IF** he is leaving to help his NFL prospects then he either has been getting

Pioneercoug

9/21/22 2:56pm

How many of those were starters or effectively starters and who also quit

Short_Changed

9/21/22 3:10pm

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Ursas Puma

9/21/22 2:54pm

it's different for a QB

lukeskywalker

9/21/22 4:03pm

RE: Transferring hurting NFL prospects. Do you understand the current generation that Holker is a part of?

greatbam

9/21/22 3:59pm

I’m guessing those in the locker room think he’s a locker room issue

BYU '80

9/21/22 8:03pm

I don't subscribe to this thought process. NFL scouts care if he can play.

The Kavorka

9/21/22 1:55pm

He is doing what he thinks is best for himself

9/21/22 1:08pm

It's a matter of having two years of eligibility as compared to one.

ImaFBfan

9/21/22 1:10pm

And that is fine. But that is 180 degrees counter to the "nfl argument"

rcbyufan

9/21/22 1:12pm

Then leave before the season starts

9/21/22 1:12pm

I don't speak for Dallin nor do I really know what he is thinking.

ImaFBfan

9/21/22 1:16pm

He did make the decision he felt was best for him

9/21/22 1:23pm

And if he ends up at Utah, it’s grotesque

vegas guey

9/21/22 2:25pm

I don't agree. It is best for him to not lose a year of eligibility.

Brigham

9/21/22 1:38pm

I do that when it comes to my career, family and potential future earnings

RockyBalboa

9/21/22 2:08pm

But there's a gracious way to do that

9/21/22 2:11pm

How do you know he threw anyone under the bus?

RockyBalboa

9/21/22 2:33pm

Leaving your teammates midway through the season is throwing them under the bus

9/21/22 2:39pm

That's your perspective as an outsider with no knowledge

RockyBalboa

9/21/22 3:05pm

His dad said he wanted to leave to go somewhere that utilized tight ends

9/21/22 3:32pm

What's his dad going to say? If there are other more personal issues, do you

cougarim

9/21/22 4:39pm

If there were other issues, I don't think you'd see the messages put out by Wake

9/21/22 4:44pm

Teammates secretly love it because they get more playing time.

coolblue

9/21/22 5:16pm

Putting myself in Holkers shoes I understand the decision

Bo Dagget

9/21/22 1:16pm

I agree with your take and don't blame him... but I also don't blame his team-

9/21/22 3:00pm

True, I forgot we don't play them for another couple years.

Bo Dagget

9/21/22 4:48pm

We play them in 2024. I hope he's gone by then.

TailgateU

9/21/22 4:54pm

What would your reaction be if Devaughn Vele quit right now and announced he was

Short_Changed

9/21/22 3:13pm

Disappointed. But it’s his life, I would wish him well, even if he went to BYU.

DrJazzy

9/21/22 7:38pm

One other BIG detail points Dallin going to Utah

Sircumference

9/21/22 3:20pm

Utah has only a club track team.

Pioneercoug

9/21/22 3:29pm

I think the idea would be that she could stay at BYU if he transfers to

kos

9/21/22 4:29pm

Weber State?

cambo

9/21/22 6:26pm

That is a very good assessment

BYU Tar Heel

9/21/22 3:22pm

#FreeToChoose

ZooBlue

9/21/22 6:26pm

TLDR-Post your essay on the commUTEr college board

9/21/22 7:53pm

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