You made a whole lot of assumptions and misrepresentations there.

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Jan 20, 2023
9:25:33am

Ragnar Danneskjold $4,000,000. Never forget.

Maybe re-read my post.

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Ragnar Danneskjold

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Google CEO “takes full responsibility” for the bad decisions leading to layoffs

NottherealJWill

1/20/23 9:06am

Did his announcement include, "With that being said..."

kccougar

1/20/23 9:07am

why should he face consequences for having to layoff people

Deleted

1/20/23 9:07am

Should he not be responsible for serious strategic errors?

NottherealJWill

1/20/23 9:10am

By responsible, you are meaning being fired? Outside of that, there is not much

SUAVO

1/20/23 9:17am

Or, the people were necessary until they weren’t

Solomon Levi

1/20/23 9:17am

Agreed. I work in the aerospace industry and when a contract runs out or you

SUAVO

1/20/23 9:25am

CEO's & corporations can do no wrong. Open borders are a must. The bottom line

gopman

1/20/23 9:31am

If he's accepting full responsibility, wouldn't that imply consequences?

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/20/23 9:18am

Are all consequences made public?

SUAVO

1/20/23 9:27am

Because his company did so poorly that they lost 12,000 jobs.

ochobeeguy

1/20/23 9:30am

...because people are spending less

Deleted

1/20/23 9:33am

He'll keep every dime of his bonus though.

vagabonder

1/20/23 9:07am

So?

CrimWalCoug

1/20/23 9:10am

It's commentary on the fake statement of contrition. If these CEO's were truly

Corn Pop

1/20/23 9:13am

Not necessarily.

Baron

1/20/23 9:15am

Is stepping down the only way to take full responsibility?

SUAVO

1/20/23 9:21am

"full". Feel free to name a consequence equal to the term "full".

Corn Pop

1/20/23 9:31am

So what is the consequence for over hiring? The market has hammered his compensation.

Baron

1/20/23 9:36am

I assume he/his company is losing a lot of money, I'm sure confidence in him has

SUAVO

1/20/23 9:44am

It’s not the CEO’s main focus to ensure everyone keeps their job. Where are you getting that?

CrimWalCoug

1/20/23 9:58am

You misunderstand. I'm fine with a CEO doing their job, but their job isn't to

Corn Pop

1/20/23 10:06am

What is full responsibility for decisions that lead to layoffs? What should it look like?

Baron

1/20/23 10:12am

Do people not know how companies work? Seems like a lot of populist and anti-capitalism thought has been creeping

Baron

1/20/23 9:14am

RE: Do people not know how companies work? Seems like a lot of populist and anti-capitalism thought has been creeping

letthewookieewin

1/20/23 9:16am

It's the statement. These CEO statements are stupid and deserve ridicule.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/20/23 9:19am

So are you saying it wasn't his decision to hire too many people?

Baron

1/20/23 9:21am

You made a whole lot of assumptions and misrepresentations there.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/20/23 9:25am

Yes I have read it. And it makes little sense. He made a mistake and admits it. You don't think he should say that.

Baron

1/20/23 9:30am

RE: Yes I have read it. And it makes little sense. He made a mistake and admits it. You don't think he should say that.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/20/23 9:53am

IF the CEO felt compelled to say anything at all, something along the lines of

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/20/23 10:01am

Which he did. If you read the whole letter, people are throwing a fit about one line

Baron

1/20/23 10:12am

And as was stated, leave out "I take full responsibility." It means nothing and rings hollow.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/20/23 12:51pm

Saying you take full responsibility & taking full responsibility aren't the same

ochobeeguy

1/20/23 9:32am

Nobody cares he wasn't punished. The fake contrition rubs people the wrong way.

vagabonder

1/20/23 9:21am

Put him in the stocks in the lunchroom. That's true justice.

Benfica1

1/20/23 9:23am

Cry me a river. When Patrick Mahomes throws 4 interceptions should the Chiefs cut him?

Baron

1/20/23 9:23am

How did you get that from his post?

Corn Pop

1/20/23 9:25am

The claim he wasn't punished and the implication by you and others that punishment must include

Baron

1/20/23 9:27am

Have no mercy for that straw man!

vagabonder

1/20/23 9:28am

"Nobody cares he wasn't punished."

Corn Pop

1/20/23 9:32am

If termination is the consequence for over hiring then companies will just

SUAVO

1/20/23 9:33am

If it's the NY Jets then yes.

gopman

1/20/23 9:48am

Morality/ethics don't matter. Some will gladly sell their birthright for

gopman

1/20/23 9:33am

It's just that his decisions had dire consequences for thousands, & none for him

Turnpike Lane

1/20/23 9:33am

The alternative is not hiring those people and over working those already

SUAVO

1/20/23 9:48am

I'm all for companies making a profit but for the last 30 yrs. we as a country

gopman

1/20/23 9:38am

I think these CEO messages are dumb, but if the CEO had done smaller tranches of layoffs during the growth market for

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