What, your own school found no such thing?

Jan 23, 2023
4:54:19pm

Z-Ute Contributor

BYU hit by fresh allegations of racist abuse from crowd at athletic event

Fresh allegations of racist slurs being used at a BYU athletic event have emerged, a month after similar claims involving the Duke volleyball team

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/sep/30/byu-racism-allegations-womens-soccer-college-sports

“And when brought to the attention of the BYU coaching staff there was no real response or sense of, like, alarm.”

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougars/2022/11/07/pacific-cancels-volleyball-match/#:~:text=Months%20after%20Duke%20volleyball%20player,to%20forfeit%20the%20match%20instead.

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South Carolina coach stands by decision to cancel BYU games despite report's findings

The University of South Carolina women’s basketball coach said her decision to cancel two games with Brigham Young University would not change despite news that

https://kutv.com/news/local/south-carolina-coach-dawn-staley-stands-by-decision-to-cancel-byu-basketball-games-despite-reports-findings-racial-heckling-slur-duke-womens-volleyball-smith-fieldhouse-provo

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This point is perfect. ALUFs, I encourage you to take young kids or your mother

canofpicante

1/22/23 10:30pm

I get embarrassed from some of the roc chants at basketball games

GlutealGuy

1/22/23 10:35pm

Huh?

kccougar

1/22/23 10:37pm

Some of the roc peeps are strange, the usf game last year I kept thinking

GlutealGuy

1/22/23 10:38pm

Strange BYU fans. You bet we got’m. But that’s not what I’m really talking about

canofpicante

1/22/23 10:46pm

ALUFS always go to that though

travelcoug

1/22/23 10:55pm

Ah, but not the same. You would take your kid to sit next to the Roc

Loafer

1/22/23 10:37pm

And I would laugh at them with my kid and tell him that some people are weirdos

GlutealGuy

1/22/23 10:39pm

Weird or even obnoxious is very different than vulgar.

Soupie

1/22/23 10:39pm

They don't need to chill. The student section is supposed to do the exact

westsidecoug

1/22/23 10:55pm

Older I get, the less I like the idea of heckling the opponents.

Parker Schnabel

1/23/23 10:12am

That's a student section's job, there's a line they shouldn't cross but that's

CameronG

1/23/23 11:06am

Kind of like the treatment Kaden Slovis got when USC played at LES...

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 11:12am

CBer who names himself "Gluteal Guy" calls ROC cheers embarrassing. Pot meet

BYUlv

1/23/23 5:07pm

UofUguy, I’m serious. Do a little experiment. I don’t know what you’ll see.

canofpicante

1/22/23 11:08pm

I did this with my then 13 year old son in 2016

ElkhunterUT

1/23/23 2:07pm

I take my young kids to multiple games at RES every year

Cheese Fries

1/22/23 11:19pm

BYU Game? Where’s your seats?

canofpicante

1/22/23 11:40pm

Plot twist: he's talking about basketball games.

Zooropa

1/22/23 11:51pm

He was sitting behind the curtain....

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 11:13am

We go to basketball games too!

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 11:19am

I also took my boy to the Utah-BYU game in the Marriott in December

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 11:21am

Everybody gets their own section.

cougfanblue

1/23/23 1:12pm

They are called MEETS. In gymnastics they are called MEETS, not games.

zonacougar

1/23/23 12:01am

RE: I take my young kids to multiple games at RES every year

panacablue

1/23/23 5:11am

Haven't heard anything in years, but feel the whole rivalry is too toxic. Ok.

ochobeeguy

1/23/23 7:41am

I take my kids to games all the time

Medute

1/23/23 6:37am

And you’ve sat next to your student section? I’m not lds and don’t care to have

bornbyu93

1/23/23 6:49am

Maybe it’s different at other games.. I should probably say I’d never take her

bornbyu93

1/23/23 6:52am

Have you watched a Kansas State game on TV?

Medute

1/23/23 7:34am

Is it …

AZcougLawyer

1/23/23 7:39am

The F gets its own word. My medical assistant is a K State grad

Medute

1/23/23 7:57am

I dunno, K State’s coach was pretty embarrassed by it last week

demon_llama

1/23/23 8:09am

It’s been there for years. Nothing new

Medute

1/23/23 8:12am

yeah, college student group behavior isn't normally what I want my kids to

demon_llama

1/23/23 8:44am

I’m sure they do. The OP point was, and My point is, that BYU is much more

bornbyu93

1/23/23 8:56am

I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences. I will continue to treat opposing fans +

Medute

1/23/23 9:10am

I’d only ever go to opposing venue decked out in gear w seats in visitor section

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 9:22am

My seats are close to the MUSS

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 8:17am

I mean, what do people think happens?

Medute

1/23/23 8:30am

In fact I’d say fan behavior at RES so uneventful it’s boring

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 8:38am

Now I know you're lying. Good riddance.

Ungoy

1/23/23 11:13am

Wow okay

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 11:22am

just think of your experience on CB as if you are a BYU fan in blue gear sitting

demon_llama

1/24/23 6:11am

This point is kinda dumb. You don’t pick your team based on fanbase. I’m a raiders fan and no I wouldn’t take my kids

Blue2thebone

1/23/23 8:19am

Not dumb. Tough to be a fan of a school who constantly denigrates your religion.

BleedCougarBlue2

1/23/23 8:41am

More than half of the student body at the U. is LDS

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 8:48am

The University of Utah actually has a very good working relationship with

House_Of_El

1/23/23 8:53am

If YOU say so, that settles it in my mind!

rotorhead

1/23/23 9:00am

There are teachers and admin who are openly anti LDS bc of various reasons..

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 11:15am

Please help me understand. How did you objectively determine it is objectively

Bullrider

1/23/23 11:18am

These links would pretty objectively be considered a "good working relationship"

House_Of_El

1/23/23 11:44am

So, actually their is a history of anti-mormon bias at the institution... which is why so many faithful alumni

(Private)

1/23/23 2:34pm

The school isn’t. The church is one other major donors. You don’t slap the hand

canofpicante

1/23/23 11:30pm

The school doesn’t “constantly denigrate the religion”

Medute

1/23/23 9:13am

Exactly. I had a couple of professors that clearly weren't fans of the local

kos

1/23/23 9:34am

Glad that was your experience but mine was very different. I had several

Nagurski

1/23/23 9:47am

I never heard one professor criticize the LDS Church in many years at the U

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 9:58am

In 3 semesters, how many professors and how many comments would you estimate

Medute

1/23/23 10:17am

BTW, the single greatest LDS mentor I ever had was a philosophy prof at the U

Medute

1/23/23 10:19am

Happy to respond

Nagurski

1/23/23 2:21pm

Just gauging your barometer: What about selling shirts at the bookstore that say: "Screw BYU!" What is that exactly?

(Private)

1/23/23 2:35pm

It certainly doesn’t equal “denigrating a religion”. Sounds like a rivalry shirt

Medute

1/23/23 3:29pm

I think there is a difference between being a fan of a gangster team like the Raiders and sending your kids to a school

JohnnyComeLately

1/23/23 10:10am

Just FYI, there's a healthy contingent of the MUSS that are also a healthy

kos

1/23/23 10:36am

LOL, just go to a game and you'll see the majority of the MUSS is a drunken mob

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 11:16am

Hilarious

Medute

1/23/23 12:07pm

To get an honest evaluation, I would suggest having some independent, unbiased

Rocketman

1/23/23 8:59am

What does mom think about byu fans throwing trash on people over a game?

Z-Ute

1/23/23 9:03am

Oh, you are the Ute fan that expects BYU sporting events to be sacrament meeting

Loafer

1/23/23 10:06am

Careful casting stones

Z-Ute

1/23/23 1:15pm

You honestly think Scalley's N word text to Shah was a one-time thing? LOL

CameronG

1/23/23 1:53pm

Honestly think byu fans making same slur was one-time thing?

Z-Ute

1/23/23 2:40pm

The slur that actually wasn't said?

CameronG

1/23/23 3:01pm

But you know the truth about Scalley...

Z-Ute

1/23/23 4:45pm

Lol the jokes on you. Scalley came on CB and apologized. Here you go

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 8:20pm

He’s such a freaking awesome guy. Love that dude

Medute

1/23/23 8:29pm

Could you point to where BYU fans said a slur?

Loafer

1/23/23 3:37pm

The answer:

Ungoy

1/23/23 3:43pm

What, your own school found no such thing?

Z-Ute

1/23/23 4:54pm

Do you have a link to actual proof and not unprovable allegations?

Ungoy

1/23/23 5:05pm

Link to the incident at the BYU-USC soccer match

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 5:20pm

RE: Link to the incident at the BYU-USC soccer match

Loafer

1/23/23 6:24pm

Swift action with Morgan would've been firing him but Utah doesn't want to lose

CameronG

1/24/23 8:06am

It cost Morgan hundreds of thousands of dollars and no longer coach in waiting

Cheese Fries

1/24/23 8:16am

He will be the next head coach and got a raise a year after his "punishment"

CameronG

1/24/23 8:17am

No, that is only the Morgan Scalley incident

Loafer

1/23/23 6:29pm

These are all allegations, nothing proven. It was proven what Morgan Scalley did

Loafer

1/23/23 6:22pm

People who have strong negative takes on the Scalley situation are interesting

Medute

1/24/23 8:13am

Z-Ute, I never said what either experience would be like. Just give it a

canofpicante

1/23/23 12:11pm

I have been next to the Muss with kids and next to byu fans

Z-Ute

1/23/23 1:46pm

From what I heard about West Concourse incident, it was an elderly person

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 9:28am

How about the lady that exposed herself to the crowd?

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 11:17am

You have a good memory, that incident was 13 years ago

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 11:25am

You brought up the BYU Fan that tackled the Ute Cheerleader that was over 14 yrs

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 11:30am

Different context here, this about the poor elderly man in West Concourse

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 11:36am

That sent one of my friends packing, that coupled with the vulgar students and

Dat_rmishner

1/23/23 11:28am

or we have the actions of Ute fans that alienated one of your own famous alums..

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 11:19am

Do you have anything more recent?

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 11:28am

It has become so common place that it even isn't reported

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 11:31am

You know that’s not accurate at all

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 11:37am

I attended a BYU game up there and sat in neutral colors in the student section

Dat_rmishner

1/23/23 11:40am

I attend nearly every home game at RES and never seen anything like that

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 11:51am

I am talking a small sample size, but alas that is what happened, and maybe

Dat_rmishner

1/23/23 1:57pm

Or we have Suspender boy trying to challenge Bronco Mendenhall

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 11:21am

Suspenders was widely condemned by the Utah fanbase

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 11:30am

Dude you asked for proof and the entire board has given you a huge list and yet

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 12:08pm

I didn’t ask for proof of anything

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 12:21pm

Those who have committed more/worse offenses are always the ones calling for the

CameronG

1/23/23 1:15pm

I’m not out to judge the past on either side, it’s a waste of energy

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 3:07pm

Again, why don't start with your fellow Utes before coming over here to tell us

CameronG

1/23/23 3:33pm

I’m going on Twitter to do exactly that

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 3:37pm

What about byu fan getting held back from Whitt's wife?

Z-Ute

1/23/23 1:53pm

You mean this....

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 3:49pm

Yes, where the University of Utah staff assaulted and stole property from a BYU

Loafer

1/23/23 3:53pm

Where does it say staff?

Z-Ute

1/23/23 4:58pm

I guess it says it right next to your bold claims, that a fan attacked Kyle’s

Loafer

1/23/23 6:26pm

Also years ago. Like I said, you guys just find these rare individual incidents

Medute

1/23/23 12:10pm

Wear a BYU shirt to the next home game and walk the stadium. Film your results.

JupiterJones

1/23/23 6:04pm

Gross. Hard pass

Medute

1/23/23 6:14pm

Exactly, you know what would happen.

JupiterJones

1/23/23 8:01pm

Done. Most recently 2 days ago. Near the MUSS. ZERO PROBLEMS

ALUF 1990

1/23/23 2:48pm

Not sure bball counts. Needs to be a FB game & even better if vs BYU.

Soupie

1/23/23 2:57pm

Done. Many many times. Lots of fun experiences.

ALUF 1990

1/23/23 3:01pm

RE: Done. Many many times. Lots of fun experiences.

Ungoy

1/23/23 3:16pm

Yep. RES will chant #&%$ the Mormons and ALUFs will say "I didn't hear anything"

JupiterJones

1/23/23 6:02pm

I’ve never heard that chant at RES either

Cheese Fries

1/23/23 6:04pm

Oh look, another made up story! It’s impossible to debate with people

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