I don’t really understand the argument you’re making. Employees should decline higher pay & benefits today because they

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Jan 23, 2023
6:32:24pm

Odysseus Truly Addicted User

might not have them later?

And what happens when they take less money today and get laid off later anyway?

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Having worked in SAAS for the better part of 15 years, I think there is a lot of blame to go around with the current

P-Boy Squad All-American

1/23/23 6:02pm

The job hopping is interesting. I’ve been told “2 years is too long”.

letthewookieewin

1/23/23 6:04pm

Really? Never heard that. I’ve been at SaaS place for 5+ years

bruincoug

1/23/23 6:07pm

That definitely doesn't look bad.

JoeExotic

1/23/23 6:11pm

Yeah. I look for it when hiring. I get turned off by the short stays because likely means they'll be a headache.

P-Boy Squad

1/23/23 6:16pm

And they will shortly jump from you. Why invest in the development just to have

ordinary tri guy

1/23/23 6:18pm

If you know any SaaS shops looking for a GC, I’d be open to talk.

bruincoug

1/23/23 6:19pm

Funny enough we might be looking for one. Let me ask our CLO and I'll BM you.

P-Boy Squad

1/23/23 6:20pm

Great. Thx.

bruincoug

1/23/23 6:21pm

I was at a Fortune 500 SAAS for nearly 9 years

CougarCanuck76

1/23/23 6:16pm

I hear that from some kids fresh out of college…they are wrong

UVCoug

1/23/23 6:28pm

It’s a pretty common strategy for software developers to increase total compensation. Not saying I agree with it

letthewookieewin

1/23/23 6:33pm

2008 coming to a neighborhood near you. They haven’t had to go through rough

Nat Gas Man

1/23/23 6:34pm

Yeah, Job Hopping is a problem in my area...

Xenon

1/23/23 6:47pm

My wife was helping a recruiting firm find candidates and they purposely had her filter out people who were job hoppers.

greatbam

1/24/23 3:11pm

good thoughts

CougarBuddy

1/23/23 6:06pm

You've identified several problems that

Archaea

1/23/23 6:07pm

It amazes me how people can get high level jobs with resumes that basically say

DiamondMo

1/23/23 6:13pm

Employment now is so transitory.

Archaea

1/23/23 6:13pm

Sounds similar to peoples outlook on dating and marriage.

SnickSnack

1/23/23 6:15pm

Companies keep hiring and giving big pay raises to outside talent instead of

Mitty

1/24/23 3:07pm

One other factor is the massive amount of capital that has come out of the

Nat Gas Man

1/23/23 6:14pm

Probably depends on the industry you work in. I worked for my previous employer

SnickSnack

1/23/23 6:16pm

I’m at a SaaS company with almost no perks, but lots of long-term employees

cougarmeister

1/23/23 6:18pm

Funny thing is the money really hasn’t dried up for a lot of the companies

Tare

1/23/23 6:26pm

Plus big tech is still buying companies and paying exec bonuses.

mottman

1/23/23 7:13pm

Labor isn’t organized. Were employees supposed to turn those things down en

VenturaCoug

1/23/23 6:26pm

I don’t really understand the argument you’re making. Employees should decline higher pay & benefits today because they

Odysseus

1/23/23 6:32pm

I hate the interview process so much though.

VACOUGFAN

1/23/23 6:36pm

My experience in SAAS: People everywhere, and maybe 25% of them do useful things

dYrtbYkerYder

1/23/23 7:05pm

But not everyone is was guilty of this. I’ve been with my company for 10 years.

BYU Grounds

1/23/23 7:35pm

Nonsense, it’s up to the company to decide what a position is worth

boyblue

1/23/23 8:22pm

Very well said! Poorly run business falls squarely on the shoulders of those

RisinUp

1/23/23 8:33pm

Some truth, but Covid out things over the top and employees haven’t been willing

Incentivize

1/23/23 11:09pm

Spoken like a person who isn't in tune with market dynamics during COVID years

ordinary tri guy

1/24/23 3:38am

It’s been 3 months since I last hired a dev, how long for you?

boyblue

1/24/23 9:24am

I don't hire devs...I listen to HR Directors tell me first hand what they dealt

ordinary tri guy

1/24/23 9:31am

cool, cool. Well, it will be super easy to verify

boyblue

1/24/23 9:45am

LOL the employees are at fault = the dog ate my homework.

Mitty

1/24/23 3:05pm

Well said, very much agree!!

Lefty24

1/24/23 9:59pm

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