Feb 1, 2023
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I don't follow. So what ACC schools are going to add more than $100 million per year to the BIG
to make it magically worthwhile for the BIG to suddenly add a bunch of ACC schools? Miami, FSU, Clemson? $125+ million?
Probably not. The SEC and BIG are the only conferences capable of getting two teams in the 4 CFP format. Yet, they just voted to have a 12-team playoffs that gave byes to the top 4 conf champs.
Do you really think they are planning to disrupt everything and jump to a 22-24 team conference? What's the benefit? No one is really that accretive.
I could potentially see them adding Clemson / FSU and Miami, the way they did with the LA schools...but that's about it.
Let's say they do that...then what? How does that effect the Big 12 here? Is the Big 12 suddenly going to hold off killing the P12 for now and holding out for potentially Louisville or Pitt 10 years from now?
No. The Big 12 is looking to be in the top 3 conferences, owning the 3rd bye for their champion, getting multiple CFP berths and narrowing the gap with the BIG in terms of competitiveness.
that's the goal. No one is going to come in and be dramatically accretive. Cu and ASU are nice market but they're not going to change the payout. Adding uofA with ASU doesn't help there either.
The goal is more about competitiveness and perception in regards to other conferences...helping seeding and berths for the lucrative CCG and CFP games while also creating more compelling, must-see matchups during the season.
ASU, UofA and CU right now, don't help that cause. At all. In fact, no one in the west really does beside Utah, UW and Oregon. The latter two probably won't come. They think they can score half of the BIG takedown and join that conference. So why would the BIg 12 allow a short term commitment?
Utah becomes the top practical pick because of charts like the one attached. take off your blue goggles for a minute and look at the schools on this list, Utah doesn't belong here. They've been winning at a level very, very few schools are playing at. There's no signs of that changing. So the predictive element is a factor as well.
But more important, you're getting this type of play at a bargain as almost all of these schools on this list are P2 or the top level ACC/Big 12.
Probably not. The SEC and BIG are the only conferences capable of getting two teams in the 4 CFP format. Yet, they just voted to have a 12-team playoffs that gave byes to the top 4 conf champs.
Do you really think they are planning to disrupt everything and jump to a 22-24 team conference? What's the benefit? No one is really that accretive.
I could potentially see them adding Clemson / FSU and Miami, the way they did with the LA schools...but that's about it.
Let's say they do that...then what? How does that effect the Big 12 here? Is the Big 12 suddenly going to hold off killing the P12 for now and holding out for potentially Louisville or Pitt 10 years from now?
No. The Big 12 is looking to be in the top 3 conferences, owning the 3rd bye for their champion, getting multiple CFP berths and narrowing the gap with the BIG in terms of competitiveness.
that's the goal. No one is going to come in and be dramatically accretive. Cu and ASU are nice market but they're not going to change the payout. Adding uofA with ASU doesn't help there either.
The goal is more about competitiveness and perception in regards to other conferences...helping seeding and berths for the lucrative CCG and CFP games while also creating more compelling, must-see matchups during the season.
ASU, UofA and CU right now, don't help that cause. At all. In fact, no one in the west really does beside Utah, UW and Oregon. The latter two probably won't come. They think they can score half of the BIG takedown and join that conference. So why would the BIg 12 allow a short term commitment?
Utah becomes the top practical pick because of charts like the one attached. take off your blue goggles for a minute and look at the schools on this list, Utah doesn't belong here. They've been winning at a level very, very few schools are playing at. There's no signs of that changing. So the predictive element is a factor as well.
But more important, you're getting this type of play at a bargain as almost all of these schools on this list are P2 or the top level ACC/Big 12.
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Nah...Utah likes the association with the P10 academics. As a fan, I'd prefer the P12 right now because Utah has an
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Lol. So Utah doesn't go to the Big 12 because they lost to Penn State and to Florida? So due to this ugly on the
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What exactly did he say? Didn't he say national recognition? Sorry, but outside Oregon and UW...no one else left offers
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Utah's playing it right. They may as well wait out the P12. They can jump to B12 any time. BIG is out of the picture for
1/31/23 2:22pm
This is what Utah fans tell themselves but it's not true. The pecking order is surely Oregon/Washington > ASU/Arizona
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Umm...yeah...if the ACC was going to break the GOR it would've happened. When your entire theory relies on something
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What does Utah bring that the Big 12 doesn't already have or doesn't have a better option with another school?
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