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May 25, 2023
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Forzaitalia
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IIRC Heaps was okay as a freshman. He was a 7-on-7 superstar. Far different when
the bullets were flying.
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I will trust ARod. I watched Jaren Hall in high school and would not have
ColdFusion1989
5/25/23 6:49am
We all thought Tanner Mangum would be a star....then reality hit.
WJCougar
5/25/23 6:54am
And then Ben Olsen. Highly rated
CLCougar
5/25/23 7:02am
Ben might have been great at BYU but he didn't give it a chance...
WJCougar
5/25/23 7:06am
No, not even a good QB at UCLA
akbarishiwatsu
5/25/23 12:06pm
Tanner and Jake would have both been NFL QB’s had Anae stayed
c_bass14
5/25/23 7:20am
Tanner? Yeah nope
Turnpike Lane
5/25/23 7:22am
Tanner was a Freshman All-American but he was fortunate to have one of our most
Lord Jim
5/25/23 7:25am
The WRs his Frosh year were quite mediocre. The most talented one was Juergens,
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 8:16am
Mediocre? No they weren't
Lord Jim
5/25/23 10:54am
I wish Fesi had been here to develop Matthews — cuz his ball skillz stunk.
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 11:07am
As much as I like Tanner, this is also silly. Mathews was great. Juergens was
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 11:45am
Couldn't disagree more. Matthews had poor WR skills even by HS standards. Dude
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 11:57am
Do you even watch? Off the top of my head against USU in 15 and Cal in 14 I
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 12:01pm
Ha! He was TERRIBLE at high-pointing an overhead pass. On a sideline route
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 12:12pm
He is the main reason the "jump-ball" narrative exists. I keep thinking you will
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 12:22pm
Yeah. He was 6’6 & jumped outa the gym.
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 12:33pm
He rarely got the chance to high-point on a fly route. A fly route is not
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 12:38pm
Every ball in coverage has an optimum
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 12:53pm
A go route the optimum placement is over outside shoulder on the go. No high
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 1:41pm
For MM nothing over-the-shoulder was optimum. He sucked fielding
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 1:47pm
He did not get a lot of them, but I just pointed out at least a few where he did
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 4:16pm
What I get from you, sir
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 4:39pm
So the fact that he almost had 1000 yards as a Junior and led the team in
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 5:21pm
Kid was a great athlete & a very big target. We had few WR options
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 5:29pm
He was, in FACT, a GOOD receiver. We missed him desperately in 2016 (Taysom
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 5:48pm
He was a very good receiving OPTION, yes. And was very much missed, yes.
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 5:57pm
It looks like Taysom, Tanner, and Christian Stewart couldn't even convince you
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 6:28pm
Each of them liked that OPTION so much they would say he was a GOOD receiver
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 6:31pm
Unfortunately, at 6'6, with a Sub 11 100 — & the NFL still said otherwise.
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 6:47pm
His 2000 receiving yards say he was good. As do his 3 QBs that loved throwing to
SoBlueitHurts
5/26/23 2:31pm
Wasn’t he on the Dolphins roster for a season? He literally was an NFL WR
Lord Jim
5/25/23 12:59pm
This is one of the biggest lies repeated about TM's freshman year.
Ham
5/25/23 9:32am
There were a few, but 3,300 yds is a LOT of jump balls
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 11:46am
WOW! 3,300 yards of jump balls? He did have a talented group of receivers, but
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 11:39am
The funny thing is the accusation of jump-balls was MUCH more to do w Matthew's
SinkingQuffa
5/25/23 11:44am
Manziel won a Heisman by just tossing the ball up to his elite receivers
BYU-Laie
5/25/23 2:26pm
I don't know about getting into the NFL, but I do think their careers at BYU
ldssdl
5/25/23 8:23am
I don't think either of them would have made it, regardless of OC. Heaps had the jitters...not sure what you can do
TheLoneCougar
5/25/23 8:34am
Tanner's decline wasn't all the offense. Physical tools declined a lot
stansburycoug
5/25/23 9:19am
I thought Tanner's problems had more to do with his
jlhazlewood
5/25/23 9:47am
I think all 3: coaching, injury, confidence
SoBlueitHurts
5/25/23 11:47am
Didn't Heaps technically reach the NFL?
CougarBreath
5/25/23 11:26am
Nah
I'mBatman
5/25/23 11:44am
Also injuries and the mental side of a player are significant. Mangum admitted
7FootRussian
5/25/23 3:24pm
I really like Burton. He's got drive and a great coach in A-rod.
Mostlyaccurate
5/25/23 9:21am
While a brief exposure, Burton looked better than I expected in spring scrimmage
Forzaitalia
5/25/23 9:28am
This is true. He showed well.
ColdFusion1989
5/25/23 11:30am
I'm having a hard time feeling upset with this one. BYU will attract top QB's:
cougarnw
5/25/23 10:42am
I was kinda underwhelmed by Heaps tape
machete
5/25/23 12:37pm
IIRC Heaps was okay as a freshman. He was a 7-on-7 superstar. Far different when
Forzaitalia
5/25/23 6:39pm
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